Thanks for bringing this to the forum. by scot Sep 23rd, '08, 22:57, Post 31 Bertram Repower, DIESEL Conversion + Alligator + Coosa Vernese Customs 28 subscribers Subscribe 0 1 watching now Premiere in progress. 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"It is compact as well, so it will fit into the existing engine bay without any costly engineering," David said. First off, great site - newcomer to this forum, but not Bertrams. Understood on your plan. Like Dug said it was a service issue. . She cruises at 26 knots and runs 31 WOT. when it come to personal opinion i have one in my boat as generator (MASE) my corp has four small 3000 watt portable generators but they are all L-9 motors same as john deere small tractors absolutely nothing to do with using a Toyota land cruiser engine marinize in a 31 Bertram.they have abandon there stp 315 hp completely as a matter of fact you could hold a complete cylinder head as a ransom actually worth as much as the rest of the entire motor due to customers with a engine that went down due to a drop valve will pay big bucks to get there boat back in water. Full-service Marina with Certified Volvo & Cummins Marine Technicians 516-378-7331, Mako Marina Freeport New York 516-378-7331. As I remember, my 454s were at about 3200 and 22 knts., and that was max. Yard is saying do not have to change shaft or stuts and they have done several 31's already, Cummin would require the larger shafts and Struts, plus increased air flow, Any comments would be great and am sure will be needing more advice as we move forward, Thanks Captain Bill Mckinnon JP Dalik Senior Member Posts: 1317 The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post Hello Bill Thank you for the comments and very nice catch! I splashed on Jan 16 2016 after a 4 1/2 year build and just turned 400 hours. Is this boat still for sale? Note down under our fuel is much more expensive (currently $1.60 per litre) hence we tend to run less hp. Not as quick as my 20-year-old, who picked it up in a second, but I picked it up pretty quick.. by Tony Meola Sep 23rd, '08, 20:24, Post by Bill Mckinnon Sep 22nd, '08, 17:29, Post The seat backs flip both ways in order to watch forward or astern. In business for 50 years we have repowered 100s of Vessels and have 1000s of satisfied customers. Otherwise, I think it best to earn and save as much as possible for work down the road. Also, do you plan to have the rails like this or bring them all the way back to the back of the fly bridge? Adds a tremendous amount of strength, adds more useable fuel in the same amount of space, and when plumbed right, 99% of the your fuel you carry is useable. by dougl33 Sep 23rd, '08, 08:08, Post She's faster than my gasser was at cruise. Ernest-By the way, the latest Motor Boating magazine has a very complimentary article about B-28's. She boasts full electronic instrumentation at helm and on tower. Great project! I'm leaning towards Yanmar, but apparently need to go to the new 8LV-350 motors. The way it works: An existing Mako Marina customer refers a friend to become a NEW 2017-18 winter storage customer or a 2017 Mako slip customer and both will save 5% off slip or storage charges! I am considering re-powering my Bertram as I currently have 8V92TIs and thinking of the Yanmar 720's Looking for some info on the Yanmar's if anyone has tried them out If you have any notable resplashes that youd like to see in the magazine, send us a note and some pictures: [emailprotected] ITB. Bill Fuller wrote:..Also, I always found the foot operated windlass switch on the bow a pain. and Boating Resources, 851 Ridge Drive | Hendersonville, NC. The $10,000 wasn't the only reason I went with Cummins. 35 Bertram Again for railing system, Aluminum at greater than 1 inch diameter? Water Faucets. Great opportunity to own a boat of the ages. Tons of work but the boat and the speed I was searching for turned out spot on with Tonys input on engineering the power train. They're mostly heavy (for their output), dirty, loud, slow, and in need of TLC. 26 Wahoo Not that it really matters, I guess. I have Hurth HSW630A 2.0:1 transmissions and 1 3/8" shafts with 1823 nib ram props with a 060 cup.. For convenience I also paint orange stripes on my rode every 30 feet. Why stainless steel support work for the hard top? Once we clear this hurdle, I will have to evaluate what accessories and cosmetic issues to address. Where I boat there are long stretches of river running to the ocean and I didnt want a down easter that cruised at 16 knots. exactly what you would expect from a company that use a converted gas engine to satisfy the small diesel market. Niels, Tony, Repower Bertram 46.6. Sometimes familiarity can be equated to ease. 25 Bertram The universal opinions stem from the boat impact. The boat has very low hour gas engines (200 hours total on recent Crusader "Captains Choice" 8.1 MPI) so our plan would be to use those engines indefinitely (we are low-hour users, so a diesel repower doesn't make economic sense). A Bonnier LLC Company. 35 Egg Harbor I'd be more choosey about your installer as right now he certainly has a credibility gap with me. Seaboard Marine delivers Guaranteed Better Than Factory Performance, Parts, Design, and Engineering for Cummins and other Marine Diesel applications. Louver Vents If you don't use a lot your boat on long cruises is better be on gas the maintenance is cheap. With the variety of Bertram 31 modifications out there, comes the inevitable debate who has done it best? 34 Fitz So I went Cummins. Hey guys need your help. 4 1/2 years to build, Slashed Sept 16, 2016. Sunstar Restoration Project - The Rebirth of a Star. My Cummins 6Bs are rated at 315/330HP, with a max cruise speed of 2,800 RPMs. by In Memory Walter K Sep 22nd, '08, 19:32, Post Cockpit Deck Soles All MerCruiser Remanufactured engines come with a 1-year factory backed limited warranty. Many 31's have been renovated at great expense, including new engines. Ames: State University - West Lawn. Profile | Mechanical Cruise at 2500 and 16kts. by Harv Sep 22nd, '08, 21:51, Post 3) Funds (more than a little). Its bigger, beefier and better looking.. Often times several power options are examined prior to beginning the job. The props are monstrous and hold the boat in the water like no other being duo-props and made from a very sturdy nibral material. I'm going into the deal budgeting little if anything in the purchase price for the "iron," as UV would say - just considering any life in them as a bonus with a boat that's very original and in nice shape. Ralph *** ***. The investment will be well worth it in 15-20 years. I check my lobster traps a couple of times per week. So, she must hold real close to 250 gallons. Henriques Yachts use the GOOD windlass on all their production boats. Will you be hands-on in the project in order to control costs? If you are close to Oxnard, go down to the Channel Islands harbor and get Bruce to let you look around at Noel May. I raise and lower the anchor from the bridge. by Dug Sep 23rd, '08, 08:06, Post I use the 750 which requires a power down as will as power up. 29 Scout 28 Main Boat The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. And the option of standard and opposite rotation versions means theres no need to install a new transmission for twin engine applications. The re sale on a diesel is way greater. Might need to get your glasses. These seemed to be more prevalent on west coast based Bertrams vs. east coast based Bertrams where many of them dont have bow railings at all. Think about it and talk to Tony. Marine and Boating Websites by YATCO BoatDeck, New 383 MAG Inboard 4V a perfect repower for all Bertram 28, 31 & 35s. Yachting may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. At 2200 rpms and 22 knts, the motors are loafing. with 3208 cats and broke the 1 3/8 shaft. Walter. The GOOD windlass is the best windlass Ive ever used on a boat. Shoreline Panels Navatech - whoa horsey, that's a ton of great info. my 2 cents. I think if I ever repower again, I'll go with 300's or 330's I'm heavy so I cruise at 20 knots and top out at 24 knots loaded. The packages include the helm station , controls , engine , transom shield , drive and the props are 1900 per pair. by Bruce May 17th, '16, 20:30, Post The TARGA 19 also features extra-wide . 42 Provincial In Forked River, the Yanmar dealer's reputation was lacking while the Cummins dealer has one of the best reps around. Check this table out. I don't know how often you will be using your boat, but i put on 300 to 350 hours per season. Rod Holders To accommodate all of the tackle necessary for canyon trips and trolling, the Priceless has 12 rod holders on gunwales and on transom, plus two additional rows of six rocket launchers on marlin tower. Tony did some really nice things on that boat. Repower and head to the Bahamas. can you have photos of the interior? by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 19:09, Post I have no problem if they need to be rebuilt either or "freshened up". Remanufactured GM V8 Marine Iron Block & Gen+ Heads 062 Casting, Thunderbolt V w/Knock Control MIE Calibration, Dual Plane Aluminium Intake Manifold with Bronze Inserts, Multi-point drain Hand Removable Blue Drain Plugs, Iron manifold with Dry-Joint Exhaust Elbow, Thermostatically Controlled Raw Water 143F, High Flow 100 psi Oil Pump and Copper Oil Cooler, SAE 25-40 NMMA Certified FC-W Synthetic Blend, 980lbs / 444kg When Installed with 72C Transmission, Audio Warning System: Oil Pressure Coolant Temperature Transmission Temperature, Need a new website? Here are some key points on the Priceless: Thrust, Power, and Fuel Consumption: She is powered by twin 315 HP Yanmar diesels that provide the push to cruise 27 knots at 3150; with 34 Knots at 3800 WOT. The rail on mine (picture) is mostly stock Bertram except for the part around the pulpit. 31 Albamar Fiberglass Part of the reason for our success is our ability to understand customers needs and tailor each package to optimize budget and maximize vessel performance. Burgee and Logos 46 Bertram Fenders and Bumpers Quick links. I was able to stop and visit the Seaboard crew on a recent visit to Oxnard at the end of July and got these pictures of my boat. Contact Information. A few questions: I use controls on the bridge and a remote when I want to operate from the bow. by J Clark Sep 22nd, '08, 21:13, Post by Charlie J Dec 31st, '15, 11:21, Post If you go with new small-blocks, like the 6.2, they're a bit more complicated, and more expensive. yanmar 8LV-350 is a good motor for it`s original use a toyota land cruiser and thats were it ends. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. 35 Duffy Board index. I did not need to change shafts. Two of the diesels were electrical related, the other was an over heated exhaust that caught the intallation on fire prior to burning the boat. Thornburg: Sigourney. That is going to be quite a project. Rail does not matter as much. Niels, Everyone, everywhere in our world knows the 31 Bertram. Boat has Covered top flybridge, outriggeers, no soft spots, no damage. Tony suggested the 370 (which has the best bang for the $buck$) for the extra 200 rpms and we propped the engine to 3250 effectively de-tuning the engine so that the 63A gear could safely handle the 370s hp. by scot May 17th, '16, 22:05, Post The fire was directly under a fabricated aluminum 80+ gallon GAS tank. by Tony Meola Dec 29th, '15, 21:50, Post They were older carb'd 454s. It was acquired in Nautic Club Ibiza (Spain) in quite a bad shape with no maintenance. My current B31--Crows Nest--has 8.2 Detroit Diesels. Pulpit The 3.0 mercruisers are 135hp at the prop I believe. With the repower, handled by Florida Detroit Diesel-Allison, Fiddler moved from a 24-knot top speed to 34 knots, turning her into the more muscular dayboat the owner envisioned. 6BTA 370 Tier I with ZF220A gear + mounts, New Flybridge controls including motor sync, Cockpit deck lighting In flaring and on deck Where to mount or have integrated in flaring, Fiberglass Hardtop, Stainless steel frame with full Eisenglas, Solid fiberglass Front window and sliding side windows, Full west coast stainless steel railing package. Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums General Discussion Bertram 31 Full Restoration. The cabin is redone, she air conditioned, complete with a new head and enclosure. Bertram by ranjr13 Dec 28th, '15, 11:34, Post And the stainless. Here are some pics taken by my friend, the . The wraparound walk-thru windshield protects you from the elements, and a 47-gallon fuel tank lets you make long runs to your favorite fishing spots. Rest assured you won't get a Mercury motor for less anywhere else! The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans. thats it carl now you said it-------torque,torque ridiculous comparison ! All that said, Priceless is greater than the sum of her parts. in standard and oppositerotation versions making it an ideal repower option for many boat owners. I had a Lewmar windlass on my previous 31 Blackfin. To not highjack this thread Ive started a new one here: Im a little late on this post/project. 37 Bertram We are excited to work with you, boats are our passion and we take pride in what we do. 212 hours already and counting. We made 41-42K in some nice weather, but realistically, shes only a solid 30K cruiser when you can hold on. And it does so while weighing some 70 kilograms less. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 08:05, Post 1964 Bertram 31 Sportfisher. 37 Tiara Repower Sales . Did you consider the QSB series before making your decision? 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