Throughout the series, his digging skills have transferred over to his piloting, utilizing Lagann and Gurren Lagann's drilling capability to gain tactical advantages underground. Leaving Rossiu at the command of Kamina City in his absence, Simon and the rest of Team Dai-Gurren take control of the Cathedral Terra, renamed the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, and launch themselves into deep space to recover Nia from Antispiral's grasp. Goku would always end up in front of the SGGL rather than Simon himself, To be honest, there is a CRT going on with SSB multiplier, this battle should be on hold because if accepted the SSB multiplier couls change the situation of the match, even if we rush to finish this fight, after the CRT it will be re-evaluate, Also given Standard Battle Assumptions, goku is gonna do it if its a viable option, Were not using SSJB anymore, this is BoG Son now, I mean he kind uses IT with kamehameha so that's valid, You can see the space one at the teleportation page, The Kamehameha isnt a good idea because Simon can absorb energy, So a vote for Son Goku? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If I'm not one to rematch, I'd rather see what the rematch had and see if it was good or bad. Simon walking away after his marriage with and "death" of Nia. Over the seven-year timeskip, the relationship continued to develop, leading to Simon's marriage proposal to Nia in the first episode post-times kip, which Nia initailly refused, though she quickly accepted after being told about the specifics of marriage by Kiyoh and Kiyal. After the timeskip, Simon has a relatively drastic change of wardrobe. Its sheer size alone is enough to tower galaxies. Medaka also copied Misogi's All Fiction, which can be used to erase injuries and her own death, making it difficult for Sonic to land any fatal blows she can't recover from. The Anti-Spiral has a cosmology of 11 dimensions, being able to easily shift throughout space-time and uses mechs that contain a super spiral universe within itself. However, one has surpassed all others to become the strongest character in anime, i.e., Simon from Gurren Lagann. Simon fist fighting The Anti-Spiral evenly matched is good enough proof that Simon could create STTGL by himself. Simon and Nia's relationship continued to develop on the way to Teppelin, with Simon being the only person on the team able to enjoy Nia's cooking (the source of Rossiu's illness), let alone stomach it. Goku has defeated many enemies just as powerful as Super Sonic, if not more powerful, and his mastery in martial arts means he can overpower Sonic in direct combat. When Nia eventually dies, the wedding ring falls to Yoko's feet. Goku has faced off against Android 19, who can also absorb blasts. And harming/tanking the Anti-spiral should be considered universal+ or more. She was born with a super-human ability called The End, which allows her to copy other powers 120% better than the original user. Omni-King (a.k.a. Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga], The Legendary Super Saiyan Goku VS The Data Dark Lord, Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form). Map. Sonic has defeated an impressive array of enemies, ranging from planet-bustingkaiju to universe-ending demi-gods, but he is not unstoppable. SGGL could probably just punch goku out of space-time with BFR (Assuming he can do what AGL did), Well, Probability Manipulation isnt passive, and its only for the MVMC attack. Despite his array of power-ups and abilities, Sonic currently doesn't have the strength needed to take Goku on in a fight. Against Dai-Gunzan the first time, Simon with his ability to read bedrock, immediately thought up a plan on how to trap Dai-Gunzan. After Kittan loads one of the Super Spiral Missiles onto his Gunmen, Kittan sacrifices himself to ensure the Death Spiral Machine's destruction, freeing the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, Simon transforms it, during which, developing star-shaped glasses in honor of Kittan's sacrifice. Name: Simon, Simon the Digger, Supreme Commander Simon Origin: Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Gender: Male Age: 14 Pre-Timeskip, 21 Post-Timeskip, 41 by the end of the series Classification: Human, Digger, Spiral Warrior, Former Commander-in-Chief of Kamina City, Leader of Team Dai-Gurren, Pilot of Gurren Lagann, Supreme Commander of Earth Like Nia and Kamina himself, Yoko is a critical piece of the developments that allowed him to continue growing and furthering himself until he could surpass his brother, a feat that he eventually achieves marvelously. Since Goku was breaking the universe apart in prior forms, I think this might just be a really fun battle that I would love to watch. In his base form, Sonic wouldn't stand a chance against the Uzumaki's strength and a wide array of powers, but as Super Sonic, this is where Sonic would have the advantage. Stronger than Goku, stronger than Golden Experience Requiem from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, stronger than Saitama from One Punch Man. He promptly appeared in Gurren Lagann, and with Nia in Lagann's cockpit with him once more, defeated the Antispiral. BTW, didn't we accept SSB multiplication? During the battle against Antispiral, Simon's goggles had transformed into star-shaped glasses, first the two points erupting from the sides so they resembled Kamina's, and finally another three points on the top and bottom (in honor of Kittan) to form the star shape. Just ask about it in the versus removal thread, The Legendary Super Saiyan Goku VS The Data Dark Lord. Goku has defeated many enemies just as powerful as Super Sonic, if not more powerful, and his mastery in martial arts means he can overpower Sonic in direct combat. Tenyais fast, but Sonic is faster. The epilogue reveals that the elderly Simon the Digger has been the narrator of the series the whole time, as they have the same voice. He can create one, though. used universes as weapons. He also can view the future and predict upcoming attacks with his Observation Haki. In episode 26, Simon had gained access to infinite amounts of Spiral Power, after merging with every possible version of himself throughout the infinite multiverse. Simon was instantly enamored with the attractive young woman and despite her initial bouts of frustration with Simon when he hesitated to act in a combat situation during their first few missions together, she seemed to reciprocate up until the precursor of the battle for the Dai-Gunzan when Simon witnessed her kiss Kamina. If you are logged in, please refresh. If Goku holds back and tries to "feel him out" in the beginning, Simon might win eventually. Sonic has defeated an impressive array of enemies, ranging from planet-busting kaiju to universe-ending demi-gods, but he is not unstoppable. Skilled Digger: As per his nickname, Simon is a digger first, and one of the best diggers in his village. Exactly, TTGL was a team effort that combined their spiral energy together, not just Simon. He can exist outside of time and nullify attacks that have already hit him, making it so that even an instant death wont be able to kill him. I will close this. While Speed-o'-Sound Sonic is a powerful threat, Sonic the Hedgehog has him beat in almost every way possible. Simon meets Kamina again in Multiverse Labyrinth. And is the probability stuff thought based? According to the novel, Simon's father and mother were officially named Takshim () and Sheeta (), respectively. @ghostwarren: if we're talking main characters. Having been for a moment reunited with his brother, he leaves to frees the others. Against Sonic, Medaka can use The End to copy any of his power-ups and use them better than he can. So you're saying that if goku punches the mecha and one shots he wins? Well, being a gag character has its perks. For the remaining 4 years, who knows how much more skill Simon has acquired. Their relationship was strained after Simon brought Nia aboard the Dai-Gurren. Simon, with his unfathomably large amount of Spiral Power, was able to catch up to match Antispiral's own power via evolution, and eventually overtake him as the universe's most powerful. By the final battle the main character is able to use nebulai as weapons, and possibly revive the dead. Gurren Lagann is about Kamina and Simon, two boys raised in the same underground village. Is Simon the Strongest Character in Anime? ?? Was able to keep up with Viral in a fight. Psanime is not a cartoon! Depends on what Goku would start with though. Not only has Sonic resisted mind control, making Hiei's moot, but he regularly defeats Silver the Hedgehog, who can also move things with telekinesis. I wonder why people bumped a old thread, only to read fanfiction about Multiversal+ Goku, lol. The two seemingly having come to some kind of silent, but mutual understanding, a smiling Yoko in the last words of the series calls his name and tosses him the ring which he catches as he turns to leave. Goku is locking on to simon's life energy and considering simon is alive then he has life energy hell goku can lock unto the life energy of dead guys or things that shouldn't even have life energy so there's no reason he can't lock on to simon Also given Standard Battle Assumptions, goku is gonna do it if its a viable option Vietthai96 He/Him 7,095 Incarcerated in the Lincarne Prison until the day of his execution, he ends up meeting his old foe Viral, and after causing a commotion among the prisoners, both are sent to individual cells. When Antispiral trapped Team Dai-Gurren in the Multiverse Labyrinth, Kamina was the one who saved Simon by appearing to him, and subsequently Yoko, thereby saving the rest of Team Dai-Gurren. He can further create a grill that can rip reality apart, let alone individual worlds. If he goes for physicals against SGGL himself then he'd decimate SGGL, if SGGL can somehow survive and stat amp plot armor asspull to goku's power then goku just teleports to the dude holding the remote control and knocks him out gg. Kamina gave Simon some final words of advice: "Your universe is the universe that lives in your heart". He swears to protect her from further harm and as he leaves, she's left speechless and cheeks bright pink. Note: Simon has used many other Gunmen, but these are the ones that he has used by himself; the other Gunmen are only used as he is with someone else. He is much more outgoing and fired-up as opposed to how he was during his tenure as leader of Kamina City. On his adventures, Sonicwill sometimes collect seven ancient relics known as the Chaos Emeralds, which grants Sonicthe ability to bend space-time and transform into the powerful Super Sonic. Even Sonic's super form is stated by the creators to be a clear homage to the iconic Super Saiyan transformation. Episode 1 If the movies are to be included though, this might just be highly entertaining. Simon has the ability to use spiral power since humans are spiral beings. He usually wore them on his forehead, lowering them over his eyes when digging. And if the situation calls for it, Goku can use his Hakai to erase Sonic out of existence. Simon watches his parents die during the earthquake. Period. I don't think there's any consensus about how strong he actually is, so I decided to put him against the most clickbaity anime universal(?) Two whimpy and shy teenagers that after obtaining powers thanks to an outside force grew to be some of the most powerful heroes on their verse by never giving up and believing in themselves. His fight with the Anti-Spiral proves Simon has the power needed to contend with Super Sonic as well, given that the two were creating Big Bangs throughout their battle. With his victory, Simon returns to his friends. He is the ruler and overseer of all 12 universes, appointing Gods of Destruction such as Beerus and Champa in order to maintain the balance of his world. Since Simon could kill the Anti-Spiral by himself, that means he has enough power to pilot STTGL since The Anti-Spiral by himself could pilot Super Granzeboma, @ghostwarren: we're using canon versions of characters, game versions obviously don't count. You are using an out of date browser. Browse AD FREE for less than 84 a month with an SHDb membership.. Simon The Digger (Gurren Lagann) vs Goku Created by Trillxgy. Piloting: Simon originally had no skills when using a Gunmen. Join us on our Epic Adventure! The guilt from Simon over Kamina's death reduces the morale for the Team Gurren, but it affects Simon to an extreme - mentally broken, bitter and depressed, he becomes increasingly hostile towards foes and aggressive team members (i.e. Yes. Simon never fought using Lagann as most of the time, he was in Gurren Lagann or taking control of a Gunmen. Shy and inexperienced, he didn't take any of the cues that she gave him throughout their time together. By the end, Simon becomes a God-like figure with command over everything as we know it. He also accepted that he could never be like Kamina, but that doesn't matter as he can still be his own person. Simon as Supreme Commander of Kamina City. Etymology: Simon's name comes from the Japanese word "shimo" meaning "under". He has matured considerably, now standing at an impressive 6'2'' (taller than both Kamina and Kittan) and is much more muscularly defined. Goku Vs Simon The Digger - YouTube 0:00 / 0:28 Goku Vs Simon The Digger ArchiZekryaze 515 subscribers Subscribe No views 56 seconds ago Show more Seraphim Goku Must Kill ULTRA. Simon, losing the fight, was able to push himself to victory by stabbing the Spiral King in the chest with his Core Drill after hearing Nia's plea. Except how high is his force field tho? They are free. Are you actually seriously telling me directly that gap between SSJ and SSB is less than .5 times lmao? This is why Simon went h2h it chose to match him in h2h instead of spawning another granzeboma or super granzeboma, Simon without his mech has 0 feats anywhere close to goku, @emperorthanos-: probability manipulation by his probability missiles which reduce your chance of dodging them and can hit in the past present and future. Simon was the one who found Nia after she, in her pod, was dumped into the canyon by a Gunmen under Lordgenome's instruction. Technically the movie is non-canon, and in the show Simon never used Spiral Energy without either the core drill or a mecha to focus it that I can recall. Voice Actor One of the most prominent traits that Simon holds is that he cares about others more then his own well-being, as shown when he tells Rossiu to put a bomb inside of Gurren-Lagann to make sure he can't escape to save himself before he went off to fight an incoming group of Mugann during his trial in order to save Kamina City. I personally think he wouldnt, because he would want a good fight, instead of going for the kill immediately. She also has access to Lambda Power, which once restored her body after it was completely destroyed by the Galaxy Cauldron, making it difficult for Sonic to land any fatal blows. Tetsuya Kakihara (Japanese) Takayuki Sugou (elderly,Japanese), Lagann PilotGurren Lagann PilotLeader of Team Dai-GurrenSupreme Commander (former)Captain of Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, Tony Oliver (elderly,English)Gabriele Patriarca (teen,Italian)Alessandro Rigotti (adult,Italian)Francesco Prando (elderly,Italian). The OP states that Simon starts with no mech, and without that, he's literally just a normal human. Necros aren't good. This, as a man, was much to his chagrin. The little boy exclaims "It's Gurren Lagann! JavaScript is disabled. Simon stores and develops so much spiral energy that he can create a robot the size of an entire universe or even a galaxy. Since SSB is SSG x SSJ then you can actually 20x goku's SSJ value as a big low ball for SSB. Twenty years later, an elderly Simon, having only a staff tipped with a large drill is seen in the outskirts of Kamina City. Simon resolved to try emulating Kamina, but the Spiral rejected it, forcing him into a fit of nausea and discharging raw Spiral Power out of Lagann's cockpit. JavaScript is disabled. These two were once noble men, down on their luck, without a hope of escape from the traps that are their boring, mundane lives. First Appearance We are a crew of obsessive and wide-eyed writers & reviewers who love putting out our views and opinions on the things we cant get enough of! While their origin was the same, their personalities contrasted with each other. Simon had her memorial placed near Kamina's. Then, there's speed. The failure results in Kamina being jailed while Simon is let off. The remaining members of Team Dai-Gurren claim the Laganns remaining from the Spiral Races who died in the Death Spiral Field - and they all unite, their combined Spiral Power engenders their ultimate Gurren Lagann form: Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, piloted together with Simon as one. Simon doesn't start with a Mech. Last Appearance Make a new hole in that alien monkeys body Simon! Goku can still hit Simon as long as he can get the force field down, if simon is starting in his giant ass mecha goku most likely wil start with key blast lmao. Nia is teleported back to Antispiral's Main Star, and within the last few moments of her presence as herself, she pleads to him, and he swears to rescue her. Then I guess just use base or a weaker Goku? Simon and Team Dai-Gurren saves Nia from Antispiral. I'm pretty sure Goku can't defend aginst that. Before emerging from the ultra-dense space, Simon already had galactic reserves of Spiral Power, which is also a prerequisite to becoming Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren's power plant. Remember, Simon still has his force field, so one-shotting isnt as easy as it seems. Goku loses even when in True Ultra Instinct, because he was able to go on par with Jiren who has been stated by Vados to be a being that surpasses time which puts Jiren on a 5D level which means Goku is on the same level. However, since Spiral Power grows exponentially over time, Simon will eventually reach a point where he can overpower Giorno, thus clinching victory. With nearly everyone having "abandoned" him (at Yoko's urging, as she believed nobody could help Simon overcome Kamina's death but himself), he is at his lowest. For more information, gohere. ), is the main protagonist of the anime and manga series, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Occupation Not only were they seeing a man chip away at bedrock, but they were witnessing him chip away at himself and their leader slowly being broken out in front of their eyes. Are spiral beings and harming/tanking the Anti-Spiral should be considered universal+ or more a effort. 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