They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Marster never whipped no one. When anybody die, someone sit up with them day and night till they put them in the ground. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory. In writing of him the Reverend John Gamble, a Moravian missionary said: "Mrs. Gamble and I love him as our own child and have not a complaint against him. Joseph Vann inherited the "Diamond Hill" estate from his father and from him he also inherited the ability for trading by which he increased his fortune to a fabulous size. Bornin Cherokee Nationon 27 Aug 1767to Joseph Vannand War-Li(MaryPolly) Cherokee-Clan-Blind-Savannah. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. Rich Joe Vann died in Oct. 1844 when the boiler exploded on his steamboat, the "Lucy Walker" during a race with another vessel near New Albany, Ind. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. The Cherokees living in the southeastern United States copied many of the traditions and practices of their white neighborsincluding the ownership of fellow humans as slaves. Just 'bout two weeks before the coming of Christmas Day in 1853, I was born on a plantation somewheres eight miles east of Bellview, Rusk County, Texas. He passed away on 4 Apr 1770 in Bertie, North Carolina, United States. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobdy ever lacked for nothing. One of the Six Killer women was mighty good to us and we called her "mammy", that a long time after my mammy die though. The separation ended at a reunification council with the Cherokee Nation in 1809. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 - 23 October 1844). MLA Source Citation: AccessGenealogy.com. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. Do you know what I am going to do? Tall and slim and handsome. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. We stayed here till everything got fixed up, then we went back to Mexico. Run it to the bank! but it sunk and him and old Master died. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. That meant she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. They'd clap their hands and holler. In the summer I wear them on Sunday, too. Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. Poeple all a visitin'. They get something they need too. The master had a bell to ring every morning at four o'clock for the folks to turn out. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vann, Chief James Clement Ii Vann, Elizabeth (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Vann (born Thornton), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Georgia, Old Cherokee Nation East, United States, Oct 23 1844 - Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, United States, Chief James Vann, Ii, Nannie Vann (born Brown), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! Joseph was the son of a Chief of the Cherokees James Vann, and Nancy Brown Vann. We lived there a long time, and I was old enough to remember setting in the yard watching the river (Grand River) go by, and the Indians go by. Dey come to de house one time when he was gone to Fort Smith and us children told dem he was at Honey Springs, but they knowed better and when he got home he said somebody shot at him and bushwhacked him all the way from Wilson's Rock to dem Wildhorse Mountains, but he run his horse like de devil was sitting on his tail and dey never did hit him. He jest kept him and he was a good Negro after that. He was the father of Nancy Vann Mackey; and Delilah Amelia, wife of Oliver H. Perry Brewer (Brewer cemetery). She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. Her master was white, but he had married into de Nation and so she got a freedmen's allotment too. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboast could't run. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. The second time I married a cousin, Rela Brewer. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. Joseph also inherited his father's gold and deposited over $200,000 in gold in a bank in Tennessee. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. Mammy work late in the night, and I hear the loom making noises while I try to sleep in the cabin. Den old Master get three wagons and ox teams and take us all way down on Red River in de Choctaw Nation. Lord, Yes! Records may include photos, original documents, family history, relatives, specific dates, locations and full names. In the pre-dawn hours of November 15, 1842, the Negroes locked their still-sleeping masters and overseers in their homes. Don't know where the other one lived. Then one day one of my uncles name Wash Sheppard come and tried to git me to go live wid him. The land was timbered and the oldest children clear the land, or start to do the work while Pappa go back to Tahlequah to get my sick mamma and the rest of the family. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. There was music, fine music. Yes Sa. Right after the War, de Cherokees that had been wid the South kind of pestered the freedmen some, but I was so small dey never bothered me; jest de grown ones. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. Christmas morning marster and missus come out on the porch and all the colored folks gather around. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. A whole half of ribs sold for twenty-five cents. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. Any information would be valuable. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. Joseph Vann is listed in the Cherokee census of 1835 as a resident of the Cherokee nation within the chartered limits of Hamilton County, Tennessee, his family consisting of fifteen persons. There was big parties and dances. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. See other search results for Chief Joseph David VANN Ready to discover your family story? We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. Our marshal made us all sign up like this; who are you, where you come from, where you go to. Isaac had been Young Joe's driver and he told me all about how rich Master Joe was and how he would look after us negroes. The city is divided into two parts: the old town, on a high hill, and the modern area, on level ground, which is fully connected to the city . I dunno her other name. I dont know about Robert Lee, but I know about Lees Creek. Pretty soon all de young Cherokee menfolks all gone off to de War, and de Pins was riding round all de time, and it ain't safe to be in dat part around Webber's Falls so old Master take us all to Fort Smith where they was a lot of Confederate soldiers. I've seen em. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. 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