Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. memtb. The .264 Winchester Magnum is like a beautiful, unloved stepchild. Mag. Long Range Hunting & Shooting .264 Win Mag for Elk ebueker Apr 11, 2009 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member 1 2 3 Next E ebueker Member Joined Mar 4, 2008 Messages 6 Apr 11, 2009 #1 I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. Introduced as late as 1963 this cartridge was soon to become the most popular in the line of .300 magnums. If you load it has some mighty good new bullets we didn't have back then. Yeah, your post is vindicated. At magnum velocities, the soft bullets tended to fragment and fail to penetrate adequately. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Superformance is safe to use in ALL firearms, including semi-autos, lever gun and pump actions. You may be able to use a heavier bullet and achieve more energy or a longer range with more velocity.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_5',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Since were talking about max distances, Id like to clarify something here. Most all game taken has been with the first shot.Any time a second shot has been required has been rare. The .264 Winchester Magnum is a magnum-length cartridge developed by Winchester Repeating Arms in 1959. Seems like its just a 6.5 in a necked down 7 mag case. I just acquired one and have never played in the 6.5 mm game much. Offering heavier bullets, greater terminal energy, more frontal diameter, and a vast selection of projectiles suitable for handloading courtesy of its 7mm military cartridge predecessors, all at a price of only a bit more recoil and a little lost velocity, the "Seven Mag" became a cartridge in every American hunter's vocabulary, while the excellent .264 Win. background-color: #333333; Took my best bull with it on public land in 2014. Built into a titanium short action with a 20-inch Proof Research carbon fiber barrel and a McMillan Edge stock, it will weigh under six. Mag. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. The retained weight will be higher than the jacketed bullet, thus during the impact will act like a heavier bullet than the 140g. A common thread you may encounter in online forums is anecdote after anecdote of large animals being brought down by small caliber bullets, or small animals surviving large caliber bullets. I would not even consider the 156 Berger with a 1:9" twist. As far as I'm aware, only Winchester Repeating Arms and Shaw Precision Guns (a division of E.R. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Every effective range calculation will, by its nature, be only a broad approximation. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. vertical-align: top Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. Sectional density says . Lightweight, lightly-constructed .25-cal. For the. Welcome to LRH and enjoy! If your .264 has a 1-8 twist or faster, load the Berger 156gr EOL bullets. A few weeks ago my amigo busted a cow elk at 700 yards with a Sendero in 264 with no problems. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In other ways 0.277" bullet development has lagged behind both the 6.5 mm and 7 mm. So, I have an opportunity to grab a NIB model 70 featherweight in 264 Win Mag at a fire sale. Combining history, high performance, and excellent manners, it is a true aristocrat among rifle cartridges. Zero333 Aug 12, 2020 #12 Laguna Freak said: I once bought a 25-06 off a guy who told me that the caliber was too light for whitetail. Bought my first 264 , a Rem 700 in 1964. Heres a link to it. The 10-mph wind causes it to drift 14 inches at 500 yards and 39 inches at 800. While this does protect the bullet from deformation during recoil and during travel up the feedramp and into the chamber, its more important function is to limit potentially explosive expansion (as a result of high velocity) upon impact. Tough bullets, deep penetration. It's a tad slower than the .264 Win. Hard on barrels? This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Mag. 100% of dead elk surveyed couldn't tell if it was a .277, .264, .284, .308 or whatever caliber bullet it was that hit 'em. I have a box of Winchester .264 mag cartridges sitting on my bench. The rest of the world has know about the ability of the 6.5 for over a century while the US hunter is just recently understanding it's capability. It is based on a necked-down .338 Winchester Magnum case and uses a .264 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those seeking accuracy and performance at extended shooting distances. I grew up hunting with one stoked with 150-grain Partition handloads, and I never had a problem cleanly killing a bull. If I wanted a load that would be good for close in out to 600 or maybe a little more, I would look at the heaviest hammer bullet that your twist will stabilize. Re: 264 Win Mag for elk. It has less drop, less wind drift, and more maintained energy. i bet we could spin some yarns around a bottle of the appropriate fermented beverage. The 7mm Rem. font-weight: bold; .tg .th-lmno { was an extraordinary cartridge. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. I never kept another one in a deer. Shaw barrels) currently produce factory rifles chambered in .264 Win. Later I switched to a 140gr Berger for deer at 2914fps. The .264 Winchester Magnum is best described as a .338 Winchester Magnum necked down by means of a 25 shoulder to hold a .264" bullet in a 96.25% of a calibre long neck. font-size: 18px; Shots near the max effective range can totally miss the animal if you misjudge the distance by 50-yards. You might want to consider taking a second rifle as a backup. The .300 RUM takes magnum .30-caliber performance to the limits of practical. The Grendel is too weak for most big game hunters. Yes. (Ret.) Its inherently accurate, making long-range shots easier. With deer-size game on the menu, there is absolutely nothing flatter shooting or with more carrying ability. I run a 1:7.5" for the 156 in two rifles, and they are accurate as heck a LONG ways out there. Just curious, are you loading the 156's anywhere near or over the max load? . Toen ik mijn vorige kamer huurde moest ik ook 150 contractkosten betalen, waarna iemand me erop wees dat dit illegaal is. ABLR, AB, BERGER, EDLX all will work. Mag., the .338 Win. The .378 will kill an elk but not any deader than 6.5 Creedmoor. 264 Winchester Magnum Uses: The 264 Win Mag can be used on just about any game found in the lower 48 states, as follows - Predators: Such As, Bobcat, Cougar, And Coyote. Plus, widely available standard .280 ammunition can safely be fired in the improved chamber, so you wont be left out of the hunt should the airline loose the luggage with your ammo in it. padding: 10px 5px; Which one, only your rifle will tell you. The kinetic energy of the projectile drops dramatically the further downrange it travels primarily due to energy lost in the form of heat generated by friction against the air itself. A. The entrance hole through the rib cage was about 6"x3". It is still the fastest, flattest light-medium bore available. Its extremely versatile with a broad selection of bullet weights, and with the right bullet is a great long-range performer. Mag.and does it in a short-action platform. Shot placement is much easier for a hunting weight rifle 8-91/2 lbs in .264 WinMag than a .3xx Rumchester Mag for the vast majority of us hunters. The 6.5 Rem. It offers bull-thumping authority at a recoil level just at the cusp of what most serious shooters can handle. saw an uptick in sales, and once-obscure rounds like the 6.5-.284 Norma, primarily relegated to long-range shooting applications, began seeing life as a hunting cartridge. Ill stick my neck out and say it: This is the best 6.5mm cartridge ever devised for hunting. I'd look elsewhere IMHO, but you could buy it and then keep looking. factory ammunition (though only one load each, in basic, nonpremium lines), Nosler offers a premium load in its Trophy Grade line, and ProGrade lists a whopping three loads in its Hunting Grade line. The data in the following table contains averages for each cartridge. Far shots start to need a lot of compensation for bullet drop and wind drift to make an ethical shot on a game animal. .tg .tg-sklq { Distance Bullet Carries Less Than 1,500 ft-lbs of Energy - This standard is used for elk-sized game such as kudu, moose, a waterbuck, a young eland, etc. That results in a 500-yard drop of 42.3 inches when zeroed at 200 yards. .tg td { It may not display this or other websites correctly. mag . rossi #1918662 01/05/08. Found one bullet between the skin and opposite shoulder, perfect mushroom but it didnt slow her down much. Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 264 win mag: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 2 : 1: 2: 264 win mag #440694 02/24/05. .tg .tg-4q2i { The bull elk is North Americas toughest hooved big-game animal. Mag. Distance capabilityreachis all about the sister virtues of speed and aerodynamics. Win. No other elk cartridge offers the combination of style and performance like the .300 Weatherby does. Introduced in 1959, the .264 Win. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. Having said that, it will not be my first choice. In addition to expanding reliably, a bullet must carry sufficient energy to take down the animal. The rifle is a 700 bdl high gloss with a green laminated stock, it is a sexy bitch. I'd hunt that rifle. There is a difference between "minimum" and "optimal". Posts: 28,277. Just as importantly, it delivers plenty of punch on far-distant impacts. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. word-break: normal; He averaged 1 1/2 shots per animal. Both of those are fully stable in a 1-9 at sea level. Over 25 ft-lbs - In a lightweight rifle, even experienced shooters can struggle to shoot more than 15 rounds without pain or developing a flinch, UNLESS a muzzle brake, suppressor, or heavier rifle is used. They shoot really well. The 264win is a good caliber choice. developed a reputation as a wounder because ammo companies and handloaders were stoking it with light, thin-jacketed projectiles meant for 757 Mauser speeds. The .264 Winchester Magnum showed up 62 years ago, and the .260 Remington is a quarter-century old. Maintained energy at each range is 1,813 ft-lbs and 1,319 ft-lbs respectively. To get longer barrel life, then just nitride it and hammer away. I would not expect a lot of replies since the .264 Win Mag is not a very common cartridge. } Mag. Seldom is the practical max the same as the true max distance. factory load in every category. The average 130-grain .277-diameter bullet struggles to achieve a BC of much more than 0.450, while even a moderately aerodynamic 140-grain .264 bullet approaches 0.500, and a streamlined one, such as Berger's 140-grain Hunting VLD, offers an astonishing 0.612. He said it "blew up" on their shoulder. Maybe in some altered reality this might be true, but the .358 cannot compete with a 165-grain .308 or .30/06 load at any distance beyond 100 yards. Mag. With these numbers, the 264 Winchester Magnum was the immediate long-range, high-velocity, flat-trajectory answer to the western hunter's prayers. In this case, the average weight of an adult male elk is approximately 720 lbs. Mag. No doubt the .264 is a capable elk cartridge, just not widely used; backing up my original assertion. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. In the question of Is the .264 Winchester Magnum within the ideal range of suitable calibers for elk hunting? our answer is: Lets look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. There's an old saying attributed to elk guides. Personally I wouldnt use either on anything bigger than a mule deer, just not enough bullet mass to push through on bigger game in my opinion. color: #ffffff; If thats the camp you hunt from, have at it, but understand that with the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, every time you pull the trigger you will get smacked with about 45 foot-pounds of recoil. It wallops big bulls with authority, and wallops hunters hard, too. Federal Factory Load: 130-grain Nosler AccuBond (BC: 0.432) at 3,060 fps, 7mm Rem. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. . Are You blued steel, 1 inch & fine wood or are you Kevlar, carbon, stainless, 30-34mm?. A broadside lung shot can be taken with most softpoint bullets. Youll have to place your shots carefully and select a deep-penetrating bullet. If you want fast .30-caliber authority coupled with compact-rifle ergonomics, this is your poison. That is a good elk rifle. Minimum sucks. That performance level is my personal minimum on elk. handload betters even the 7mm Rem. This article does not serve as the final say, but simply as a starting point for beginner hunters, as well as a venue for further discussion. Recoil is light, and reach is outstanding. The E-Tip bullet is another great option for deep penetration. There is nothing flashy about it, but flash doesn't kill big bulls. Hunting, fishing, guns, archery. Best bullets are the 7mm 155- to 175-grainers, and the .30-caliber 180- to 200-grainers. to those guys that make a living with them and stay in shape to ENJOY CARRYING 15 LBS AROUND. Looking back, I probably should have asked my dad if I could borrow his 300 ultra mag. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Description. Just use a bullet that holds together and will dig deep with the .264 and enjoy the hunt. I would work up a load with 45 bullets shooting them save 5 for hunting and take a box of your 125gr Partiton's as back up and go hunting. when I was a kid and poor I always wanted a 264 win. Fine options include the old .264 Win. font-size: 18px; Velocity is 3,300fps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dec 11, 2016 Banned #5 G GKPrice Banned Joined Sep 27, 2014 Messages 2,442 Location Western Oregon awaldro7 said: My personal opinion is the 6.5 because of bullet selection and also the ability to load heavier bullets. The only elk I have taken was at about 150 yards with a .260, using 140 gr. Lets dive right in. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Is the .264 Winchester Magnum a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? I've never heard a bad thing about this caliber. Pushing heavy bullets at well over 3,000 fps, it hits elk like a freight train. .tg { I have a 26" shilen barrel. Lead-Alloy Core Engineered for balanced expansion. What is the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum? What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a elk in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. Those who prefer the traditional cartridges are having a difficult time seeing their favorite cartridges being over shadowed by the 6.5. which is why they attack it. That would be one to try on a .264 Win. Alpha Class Long Range Scope Review - TT, ZCO, Schmidt, March, Vortex, Warner Tool Flat Line Projectile 122gr 6.5 Variant. For this experiment, well look at three common ways to determine effectiveness. The Great Debate: What is Your Favorite Caliber? Before the 6.5 Creedmoor was born, this was my favorite cartridge for any recoil-sensitive shooters. Mark R Dobrenski. font-size: 14px; Today, the 7mm Rem. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. However, it possesses authority in spades, and when paired with a fast-handling lever-action its a classic favorite of big-woods hunters. The Swede is popular with pragmatic traditionalists, but, like the 6.5-284 Norma, suffers from minimal ammo options plus relatively throttled velocities. Of course, a good handload in the 7mm would close the gap and certainly surpass the 6.5mm projectile in energy, but the comparison shows just how good the .264 is. You are using an out of date browser. Mag; it really needs 26 inches to achieve full velocity potential. Mag. Learn more . But with this 156 load at elk hunting elevation here in Wyoming, it retains 1500 ft-lbs out to 1175+ yards, and the elk we have taken in the lase several years have ranged from the closest at 500 yds, to the farthest at 910 yds. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Mag. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Another good choice is the 140gr Berger hybrids. Known as an ideal cartridge for medium-sized game, the .270 is more gun that most people give it credit for. Little things that you may never have noticed can make a shot fail if you are really pushing the limits. For all its virtues, like the 6.5 Creedmoor the 6.5 PRC just doesnt have the bullet diameter and weight to handle steeply angled shot presentations. Pick a good bullet, shoot accurately, and enjoy the fine dining elk provides. That's faster than a 130-grain projectile out of the .270 Winchester, giving .264 Win. Any of the good 140 gr and up bullets will do just fine. This is usually about 1,900fps with most bullet designs. Mine likes the 142's and RL 33. Mag. Introduced in 1959, the .264 Win. The 6.5 Creedmoor is no dragon slayer. Got a cow a few years back at 330 yards with mine. The 130gr AR Hyrbid or the 135gr Berger Classic Hunters would be great. 264 Winchester Magnum / Specifications: However, where I hunt elk with this gun ranges are rarely under 300 yards, and this is also a 12 lb rifle. . For that, the Bergers are perfect. If you hunt massive-bodied Roosevelt bulls in the rain forests of the Northwest, or pine clad ridges and canyon bottoms anyplace where 200 yards is a long shot, this is a prime cartridge. One of my hunting buddies has a 6.5Creedmoor and was telling me on a mule deer hunt how much better it was than my chambering, going to take it elk hunting as well. One of these is the . The AccuBond's unique white polymer tip assures accuracy and smooth chambering, while the boat-tail base at the rear of the bullet acts as a platform for large diameter mushrooms. The 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, 7WSM and 7mm Rem. c&c with a 308 or 06, bullet will do the job what makes anyone think a 140 gr. Also, remember that the data in the table above is using averages of multiple loads per cartridge. 6.5 CM, 260, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 SAUM yours, all have killed elk. But with this 156 load at elk hunting elevation here in Wyoming, it retains 1500 ft-lbs out to 1175+ yards, and the elk we have taken in the lase several years have ranged from the closest at 500 yds, to the farthest at 910 yds. Shooting an elk with one, however, is about like shooting a gopher with a .30/06. Unlike the predecessors .458, .264 and .338 Winchester Magnums it has a longer case and a rather short neck (.264") in order to increase the case capacity. The number on the chart below is the distance in yards at which this standard is no longer met. is a legitimate niche cartridge that does what it does better than any other American cartridge. You are using an out of date browser. JavaScript is disabled. Handloaders easily equal or outdo factory-load performancesomething that cant be said of the other fast .30s listed here. Features and Specifications: Manufacturer Number: 80633. Unique White Polymer Tip Assures accuracy, smooth chambering and eliminates tip damage during recoil. Also around 30 Mule Deer, It kills them dead!!! Would I do it again..? "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. I have a very similar cartridge in a custom 6.5x68mm with a 25" Kreiger barrel. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. font-size: 18px; Mag. Make sure to watch till the end. If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. Used to use the Nosler 140gr partition at 3200+ but have found the Barnes 120gr TSX will out penetrate it. Would be a great project rifle to put a proper barrel on. The primary difference between the 6.5 Grendel and 6.5 Creedmoor is the rifles they were designed for. Kinda like the 243 and 85gr bullet I've used for antlerless deer hunts quite a bit. The 264 was designed for one thing, western elk at long ranges. Im not talking about self-doubt or simply asking yourself what if I miss. Maintained energy is 1,703 ft-lbs at 500 yards and 1,156 at 800. Re: 264 Win Mag If you go with 264, then load it like a magnum, that is the whole purpose of having a 264 magnum. Mag. padres hats. The cartridge and rifle enjoyed immediate success and everyone was happy until Remington unleashed its 7mm Rem. I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. Sure, some experts have even gone beyond what we consider the max distance. The only thing I would do differently at the 264 win mag velocities would be to use a stouter bullet for elk such as the ACCUBOND or similar. Of course those stories exist, and they are not disputed here. Hunt lasted all of about 20 minutes. Average accuracy is an acceptable 1.54 inches. When used in any of our 6.5's it gives complete penetration. My Winchester Model 70 Sporter pushes it to 3,021 fps from a 26-inch tube (I chronographed it in 20-degree temps, and it would have been higher on a warmer day). All three are excellent choices for long-range hunting ammo.. My load is 65 grains of Imr7828 Winchester brass and federal 215M primers. If a 150 gr. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Shot placement, bullet construction, and animal individuality will all dramatically impact the effectiveness of the bullet. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!? .tg .tg-hwi9 { For excessively rugged, steep-canyon elk country such as Idahos River Of No Return wilderness, such a rifle could mean the difference between steaks and tag soup. A rule of thumb I use is if an animal is walking, shots need to be twice as close. A 90-degree, 10-mph crosswind causes it to drift 11 inches at 500 yards and 29 inches at 800. Mag. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. Colordo elk hunt cartridge selection for .300 win mag. Mag. in 1999 and it was the first cartridge from the 30-caliber. The exit hole are big cant understand how elk can get hit like that and have a fist size exit hole and act like they never got hit. With proper loading, it can outperform the .270 Win., 7mm Rem. Shot my first elk in 1972 with a Winchester Model 70 in 264 mag never took another step. I mentioned that a bullet may not perform well under 2,000 fps. For example, most of the all-copper expanding bullets need something like 1,900 0r 2,000 fps to expand even a little. It'll maintain nearly 100% of its weight and plow an impressive furrow. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its an old caliber that some would call a dinosaur and something of an a oddball, but it seems, on paper and the merits of others experiences, to be able to do a lot without crazy recoil. | font-size: 18px; In researching this story, I determined the muzzle energy data by choosing the most useful elk bullet weight for each specific cartridge, and then plugging it into JBMballistics.com along with an average of common factory-ammo muzzle velocities with that bullet weight. I've taken more Elk with my 25-06 than with my larger bore guns. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Bullet went in front of the close shoulder, hit the heart/lungs, and than hit the ball joint in the off side shoulder and shattered it. Dang thing just didn't understand he was dead and heavy brush was all around him. Learn to listen to your gut and understand your abilities. vertical-align: top And it came in affordable M70 rifles. have tough rows to hoe since they've been around since the 1960s and haven't exactly caught fire. If you are going to download it, then just go with 6.5-06. Tapered Copper-Alloy Jacket For lethal penetration and uniform expansion with maximum weight-retention and minimal barrel fouling. However, hunters who choose to use gear that does not meet this standard are often forced to either make an unethical shot or to pass up shot opportunities when the elk isnt turned the right way. load drops 35 inches at 500 yards and 132 at 800. Happy Trails. That means a considerable amount of the game was taken with "1" shot. one of my favorite places. bought new in 1964 & still shoots great.. Maybe not the ideal caliber but if you're good with the rifle it'll do the job. Campfire Ranger. Behind the Bullet: .264 Winchester Magnum. If for a brief fraction of a second everything is lined up and you in that instant know you got it, take the shot. The elk took two to put down for good. Remington also producing the 264. Due to enhanced muzzle velocity (3,100 fps according to the factory and 3,108 through my rifle) and greatly increased aerodynamics, it drops only 34.7 inches at 500 yards, and though it is a lighter bullet, its maintained velocity provides 1,389 ft-lbs of 500-yard impact energy. I was taught as long as they're standing, put another round in. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. 62x51 20 barrel 30-06 springfield 300 prc (new) 30-378 weatherby 300 h&h magnum 300 remington short action utlra mag 300 norma magnum (new) 300 winchester magnum (new) 300 wsm 300 weatherby . C$55.00. Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .264 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .264 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting. But, if you arent able to get things perfectly lined up for just long enough to pull the trigger and follow through a smidge, let it go. Only recovered bits and pieces of the bullet, no exit hole. Yes, the .264 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. I used to load for a handful of 300 Winnies using the 208 grain Hornady Amax, uncoated. The .264 Win. It weighed 59 grains. What is the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum? LOL! Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. I have used the 7x57 160gr X bullet for a one shot kill on a cape buff at 142 paces but doubt it would open up much at 500 yards going 1375fps. In this post, well look in-depth into that question. Please feel free to agree, disagree, and share stories from your own experience in the comments section below. But, credit where credit is due, its a great elk cartridge. When used in any of our 6.5's it gives complete penetration. Carried 160 Woodleigh PP over H1000. If you want to use the 6.5 PRC for elk hunting, the additional couple hundred ft-lbs of kinetic energy the cartridge provides will certainly come in handy. So why is it included? 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