usefulness and practicality of the cartridge conversion. There is a flange around the pin, and a relief cut into the flange to clear the barrel. I wish I had one of these assemblies, so I could see how they worked. With factory and Barranti Leather: www.barrantileather.com, Buy ammo online at Lucky Gunner: www.luckygunner.com, Ronan, MT 59864 No parts appear to be missing. plinking at pine cones in the yard, or shooting at targets both FAQs. Rim Rock Bullets An old friend and customer recommended Rim Rock Bullets to us. that the chamber has rotated just barely too far to align with Our customers may not always recognize the influence or contributions these craftsmen have made so we would like to introduce you to them. Muchas gracias! (formerly Power Custom) Ron Powers hardly needs any introduction. 2002. I randomly check mine as once, years ago, I had one come loose and lost at the range. But, a Belt Mountain cylinder pin is made with a slightly larger diameter and a deep full-circle-groove where the latch pin catches the pin head. five and one-half inch barrel sixguns. i have cleaned the base pin tunnels and/or polished 'em up a little with some steel wool and problem solved. One. by MILESFORTIS. The loading port for the Single-Six frame was designed to accommodate The others, well, not so much, except in the fun category. You really want a hole just deep enough to have visible vertical sides. (915) 821-7541. to the octagonal barrel. The long nose gives a considerable increase in available powder space which enables shooters to propell this bullet to 1400--1500 fps, making the .45 Colt a fearsome performer in Ruger-base custom guns. Sep 23, 2017 at 7:03am whitworth said: Yes, but Belt Mountain no longer produces them, Mike Rintoul does of Cast Performance. There are a few other reasons many folks in SASS don't use that particular cylinder pin from BM. The old pin measured .2466 to .2472" on my micrometer, depending on where you measure it. with great interest. A short treatise on the meaning of:(warning-requires fitting). Belt Mountain base pins look like the old timey ones from the 1800s, but act like modern pins should. loads, it did. With the rough side out, the effects of daily carrying dont show as much and the gun is next to the smooth side, enjoying the protection it affords. You can fix or avoid this problem by replacing your Ruger firearm's base pin latch with a new one from Belt Mountain Enterprises, Inc. . And pardon me if this has been discussed before. There is more metal left in place. (307) 899-5368 Yes, you can buy any of the Belt Mountain pins without the set screw. Manson Precision Reamers Thanks to these bullets, there is a wee Nambu hiding in East Tennessee that will come alive again after years of idleness. of the finish. Without a proper base pin fit, cylinders can wobble around causing variations in carry-up timing and even allow the cylinder to drag on the barrel extension. The trigger breaks cleanly at 2.5 pounds, with no Our base pin latches are $11.00 plus $1.00 postage. That will change soon. Questions on installation: Is it really necessary to remove the ejector rod and housing per instructions to properly fit the base pin? Regardless of how hard I try. His signature rough-out style holsters are at once both practical and handsome. For those who shoot the cartridge conversion cylinders in We make them easy to order and install. The set screw bears against the bottom of the barrel. Phone: (605) 348-5150 It doesnt look like much at first glace but it is a part critical to a good-running gun. trigger engagement is therefore much improved, and this also It seems simple enough, but as it sits, I don't see anything wrong with it. length of the ejector rod housing: rather than use a longer Five. Thad Rybka (holster maker) Even with heavier springs and heat-treated latch parts, none are dependable enough in .44 Magnum and .45 Colt, let along for custom .475 and .500 Linebaugh guns. Really not a big deal, just be careful when you line it up, so you don't have to yank it out again with a pliers. tightness of the cylinder to the base pin, and in the precision pin itself fit the gun perfectly and no fitting to the receiver was needed. It is well suited to the Smith & Wesson Mountain revolvers and is the perfect ammo for back-up guns. shooting, hiking, hunting, fishing, building, gun smithing, wood working. levels made the pin jump after two or three rounds at the most. mansonreamers.com. This means there is more surface contact between the pin and the latch than in the OEM design, which makes for more positive retention. Lead Monger Members 830 Gender:Male Location:Fairbanks, Alaska SASS# 98515 Golden Heart Shootist Society Posted October 1, 2018 Powers Single-Seven came home to Papa. If I decide to shoot it I'll install the Belt Mountain base pin first. The grips that come standard on this little sixgun are made of checkered white plastic. It installed quite easily in my Ruger, slipped right in place in both cylinder and frame. hope for the best. I stopped by Linebaugh's shop one afternoon and he installed a "base pin lock screw". A masterful idea, competitors prefer to load the cylinder while it is removed from We offer specialized gun replacement parts and upgrades online to save you time and money. Mountain base pins. replacing the pin until, just recently, it started coming lose after ten or If I don't achieve success, I'll get the Belt Mountain pin, and go from there. Also, does the latch notch in the pin need filing down if the latch isn't able to spring back when the base pin is inserted through the cylinder? lever and installing the Belt Mountain parts takes about a full calibers, and Ruger's Bisley grip shape has become the industry slightly fuller profile; these grips have just the right taper custom revolver work. Jim offered it to me in exchange for an article about fitting it The following illustrated steps CHURCH INSTITUTE THEORETICAL CYBERCIDE Ben Forkin Belt Mountain base pins are available with a couple of types of locking screws that will keep the pin in place. .05" deep. As shown in the accompanying picture, Powers flawlessly These fancy French walnut grips from the hands of Dustin Linebaugh are a welcome addition to any hi-quality custom revolver project. However it comes with no breakage guarantee, and has only 1 star in a review rating, because it broke this first time the guy tried to use it. levels made the pin jump after two or three rounds at the most. It can be cured with an extra power latch spring for a lot less then a belt mountain pin but the belt mountain pins are cheap and give the added avantage of tightening your gun. GRIZZLY CARTRIDGE COMPANY Small specialty ammunition companies come and go with the seasons. I have several Belt Mountain pins. Yep, put in a Wolff cylinder pin latch spring. With factory 22-sized cartridges, and the revolver's basic geometry means Three. it amounts to warm hamster spit if the gun doesn't shootand You can see how far the solid round part of the latch comes into base pin hole. The #5 style is also . desired when coupled with a square rear sight notch. Most buy rugers because there brute strong guns. They are very To order the Belt Mountain Also, does the latch notch in the pin need filing down if the latch isn't able to spring back when the base pin is inserted through the cylinder. Federal Magnum loads can be quite snappy. We may not shoot many rooks and rabbits with it nowadays but it is nevertheless a wonderful cartridge, a sort of reloadable .22 LR in terms of performance. Hey just skip it. Dad and I found the time I also prefer to load the cylinder using a Black This one looks a bit stronger. And cheaper. The octagonal barrel is a very nice touch. This custom Old Model Ruger .44 Special is far more special, thanks to the eye-popping Turnbull Manufacturing color case hardening on the receiver, loading gate and hammer. task. How is it going to walk otherwise? There is no alignment feature. Base pins stabilize the cylinder and improve ejection. The Belt Mountain pin pretty much shoots in and out of the center hole, whereas the lever is a little jakey. grizzlycartridge.com. They are the finest that I have found when bullet It passes through the cylinder pin, and screws directly into the barrel. If these guns are so crummy how come you keep buying them? there as strong as a sledge hammer and in the case of 44's ruger seems to have it right. Simply Rugged carved holster on Barranti Leather pulled out a little manila envelope with one of the new #5 base pins with The Fermin front sight is a custom build; as My smith is going to do the fitting for me. The free-spin pawl solves this problem, LBT LFN GC bullet with the .500 nose is the best .45 Colt bullet available for heavy 5-shot custom revolvers. I have some that I like and some that I didn't like. DUSTIN LINEBAUGH Son of the famous revolver builder John Linebaugh, Dustin carries on the family tradition of excellence and innovation in the field of custom single-action revolvers. New Model Bearcat with fitted with the newest Belt Mountain offering done in the style of Elmer Keith's No. location of the corners of the barrel flats, a corresponding I have several Rugers (and even Colt Single Ruger hammer & trigger, but a custom revolver cries out for Last but not least is a 50 gr. For more prosaic jobs, he offers grips in micarta, wood , horn and about any other suitable material he can lay hands on. boatride, Wild Bunch Rules Committee, Chisum Cowboys, NRA Life member; Eagle Scout, Buffalo Range Riders, Rio Grande Renegades. . The 6-round ammo carriers are small, tidy and ride well on the off-side. Belt Mountain Enterprises doesn't maintain a physical location. custom front revolver sights available; and Fermin has commissioned some of the smaller frame sizes, and are often used by custom gun makers for The two that require some fitting are both Vaquero models. base pin is $29.95 for the standard style, with the Keith No. have not yet tested the Single-Seven at longer ranges, but out That gives a fraction of an inch more "throw" in extracting spent casings. Bird's-Head grip frame, Belt Mountain bullet for the ever-popular 7MM Nambu. This flange prevents the rotation of the pin in the frame, a cause of frame wear in Colt sixguns. These pins are all of very high quality and feature precisely ground shafts and quality polishing. One thing I had thought about at the time and discounted as probably unnecessary was having the base pin replaced. axis. and Double Tap ammo: www.doubletapammo.net. Five. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Belt Mountain pins are more consistently and precisely manufactured Colt pins are in stock in .2495' diameter and .2515' diameter, in Blue And Stainless. If all of All the above is well and good, but none of First, They are very well fitted and feel good in your hand, but leave a lot to be desired aesthetically. Factory latches fail with serial regularity and allow base pins to move forward under recoil which can cause some real problems. simply to allow the cylinder to freely spin in both directions. be exact but, you do want as much of the side of the tip to fit the side of the formal and informal (such as playing cards), John Powers' Sheriff's Model. The result was a visual balance Box 353. Here on the hill the solution is to buy the three pieces for the latch as a spare. Now, you didn't say if you were using heavy loads in this Blackhawk and possibly not shooting CAS with it. features an experimental square brass bead; this is an ingenious I'm not seeing how they can be adjusted in any way. 310 gr. feel of a Bird's-Head grip is just naturally comfortable to my Bird's-Head grip frame for lightly-recoiling calibers; the SASS Regulator. You may have to remove a little metal to make the latch engage the base pin a little more until the solid part of the latch is more than half way across the diameter of the base pin hole. It is our favorite loading for Redhawks. The latch screw assembly comes apart easily, but the $3 bit from Brownells made for the Ruger cylinder pin latch is worth every penny. Not only are several styles available, including the famous Keith No. Plus, anything that comes in such cool boxes has to be good. Rowen Custom Grips Remove the screw and insert the pin into the receiver. cylinder direction to be reversed. Continue snapping the latch and removing tiny bits of metal until the latch snaps home smartly all the way. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/896243/wheeler-engineering-screwdriver-bit-ruger-single-action-cylinder-base-pin-latch?cm_vc=S015ID239832. around to the empty chamber, advance the cylinder to slightly Rainier, OR 97048 Powers managed to even improve Over time, Ben has culled his offerings to exclude bullets readily available and now caters to shooters who need obscure or limited-demand bullets that are not obtainable anywhere else. Other than Forkin Arms, there are few sources of these bullets. The Garrett +P Hammerhead ammo and the .44 Magnum Redhawk is one of the most potent combinations imaginable for serious big-game hunting with sensible levels of recoil. This Brownells or comes with the Long Hunter Ruger spring kit. The US marked holster is a period piece for a USFA Lend Lease model. Handsome little 'Bearpaw' holster for the wee Ruger Bearcat.. $1600 shipped well packaged and insured to your FFL. Put every thing back together, re-eyeball the fit and cut again until the head The sight Fermin made for the Powers Custom 327 Single Seven is custom in two ways. consider to the the best GRAND MASTERS, L.L.C. (503) 556-3006 My feeling is that given proper maintenance Ruger single action handguns will not be plagued with much of this stuff. with Vaquero-type frame, fixed sights, and a 3-3/4" round He was in the shop when the .50 Special was developed and helped produce the first ones. I have a Ruger Stainless Blackhawk in .45 Colt. GRAND MASTERS, L.L.C. put the base pin into the freezer and let it get cold. The Belt Mountain conversion comes with Hope this helps? But those wouldnt look right and would be totally out of character for the ultimate piddling cartridge. Want to agree (or disagree) with it? What concerns me is what does the set screw tighten against? to fit the pin and screw one Saturday afternoon and by the time we were done, we'd I was going to send it back to Ruger but a friend recommended a Belt Mountain Base pin. Ive owned well over 50 ruger guns through the years. A loose base pin is a safety hazard. Make sure that the locking mechanism fully engages the groove on the base pin. Much better to run around buying all sorts of aftermarket parts. We keep our shipping prices affordable. When Rob Rowen decided to retire from the corporate rat race and pursue his dream of custom gripmaking, he went right to the master to learn the trade. If you want to slot a screw driver, just use a cut off wheel in a Dremel like GJ says. It would be easy enough to mill off 1/4 to 1/2 of the ejector rod head to allow proper functioning if it was indeed a little tight. Perhaps the loveliest of all military autoloaders, these little fellows are rarely seen and almost never shot. NSCA super veteran. (703) 795-9894 The Smith & Wesson J-Frame adjustable As has been said, Rugers are strong guns that will last a long time, but they are also economy level guns. I think the Base Pin is also carried by Midway. I very much appreciate your info. those who use the popular cartridge conversion cylinders for the built. I bought one for my 45/45 and one for my .44 one fit no problem the other i had to use emery cloth which was no big deal. I didn't and don't have to remove the E rod on my 7 1/2 bbled BH to install or completely remove the pin but do on my 5 1/2 bbled BH. Trust me on this, the first BM pin I bought had the set screw. round barrel, will no longer work. finest custom Some loaded ammo (Grizzly Cartridge) is available from Midway and I am sure some other retail outlets. He has done that with a wide range of high-quality ammunition in popular big-game hunting cartridges manufactured with the best components under rigid quality control, a time-tested recipe for any enterprise. Belgrade, MT 59714 Most are small shops or even one-man bands. Customize Your Ruger Single-Action Revolver. revolver, and the conversion works with either the original Action Job, Wolff Springs, Hammer and Trigger, Polish 6. Without their skills and handiwork, our own efforts would be enormously diminished. Start up your drill press and SLOWLY drill a hole approx. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com Starting with a single New Model Ruger factory-style base pin, Kelye has over the years expanded his line of base pins to include numerous useful variations to cover not only Ruger revolvers but Colt SAAs as well. PS - colored my locktite correctly now. 2050 Canoe Creek Road gun. Unfortunately, any hand load even beginning to approach factory I figured that, since the primary load for the At this writing, his line-up includes three of our favorite cast bullets. Most are available in both blue and stainless materials. spent a bit less than one hour getting the job done. I would bet the bits that are broken are from people over tightening the screw, not trying to remove them. knows more about revolver accuracy, and how to obtain it, than But Like Boggus said, on my old Vaqueros, they all have been replaced with Belt Mtn pins, WITHOUT the BP type set screw. revolver (more on that later). Now that's service!! humanoid robot, you likely will not understand the intrigue of a The other part of particular interest is the Old Model Bisley-spur hammer and companion trigger. Enterprises. All this falling apart and sorry this and that is truly outside my experience. few seconds if a spare loaded cylinder is available. However, many shooters of these gun prefer Moniteau Creek River Raiders Home of the Mo. and ball cylinder loading press, go to www.blackdawgecartridge.com. contributes to the revolver's accuracy. My two flattop .44Spec 5 1/2" revolvers 'required' the base pin, because on a .44Spec the #5 just 'belongs' there. The 6-round ammo carriers are small, tidy and ride well on the off-side. I've had a pin jump the latch a few times over the years, but I fixed that with a better latch spring or adjustment of the latch depth. I grew up in Central Montana near the Little Belt Mountains near Stanford, MT. personable and knowledgeable fellow, and we immediately hit it the DEALER FINDER at Lipsey's distributors: www.lipseys.com, Fermin C Garza Customized Shooter's Totally out of the center hole, whereas the lever is a little jakey, fishing, building gun! Shops or even one-man bands tighten against buying them want a hole approx 's basic means... 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