A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. 1720fps from 8 inch barrel. Ramshot Enforcer. I will probably wnd up grabbing some H110 if Insee it locally. As someone said above, maybe the case capacity of this brass is lower causing it to be more full???? "Their answer is that no, it burns at the same temperature as H110". interesting. Its hard an the ears and eyes. VEL. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. IMR 4227 is a lot closer to that original powder, and it works well in 300 Blackout. After reading the threads posted I felt more comfortable compressing the load to the 2.050 COL. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. All in all for first impressions, I would say disappointment is the word best describing the experience. Edited May 29, 2018 by . Chronoed using a magnetto. I need to drop some speed, these were cracking at 25 degrees. Nonetheless if your ultimate goal is a higher velocity supersonic round I will concur that H110 or W269 is the preferred powder. 1059 (function() { 208 Hornady Amax I actually drove to the city (Houston) this weekend and I picked up some powder. I dropped the charge .3 grn because I wanted to test velocity in both an 8 pistol gas system and an 18 carbine. It woukd be hard to raise pressures to dangerous levels with this powder. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. Honestly, I think 4227 and H110/296 to be the ideal powders for that bullet. Im new to reloading and dont want to make a mistake. Enter your cartridge and bullet weight, and the site will list Min and Max loads. N110: Similar to Hodgdon H110 and Winchester 296. The S.A.A.M.I. I use H110 for supers only. It meters well, my Vintage RCBS powder measure was set up to throw 21.3 grains of 1680. Is there an aftermarket seating stem for these V-Max? This week 11.5 grains at 2.195 had and ES 56, SD 21. I got like 5lbs of it for around $10-12/lb and its worked great for 125-150gr supers. 1063 It meters well, my Vintage RCBS powder measure was set up to throw 21.3 grains of 1680. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs Posted: 9/2/2018 10:02:19 AM EDT H110 made sense to me since I load .357 sometimes. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. Just received some info back from Callahan Mciver at Hodgdon Powder. Hodgdon H4198. This spherical propellant is designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Blackout cartridge and meters very accurately. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/406443/Screenshot_2019-05-14_at_6_52_41_AM-944706.png. The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 2.255 COL Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. Cookie Notice Mar 13, 2019. Share the post "New Hodgdon CFE BLK Powder Great for Small Cartridges", Tags: .221 Fireball, AR, AR16, Ball Powder, CFE 223, CFE BLK, Copper Fouling Eraser, Data Center, Hodgdon, Reduced Fouling. So far Hodgdon CFE BLK is the best powder for this round IMO. An ES of 353, SD 133. (And from what some say, can possibly go faster). I just loaded at 22.5 and another at 22.0. It's interesting that Hodgdon shows 20g is max load, but Hornady shows 20.2g. The 7.6239 is a bottleneck rimless case meant to be used at intermediate combat ranges (less than 500 yards). (Thanks Trump for not pushing the hearing protection act through.) I only loaded 150 grain Hornady bullets when I was loading for a 16" .300 BO carbine. Hodgdon Tite Group. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. Na prezent moesz kupi komplet Marvel Super Heroes Comics 2014 X-Men vs 8 Remington SPC and the 7 6 1,041 13,400 PSI The Widener General Dynamic 147's are very nice and the RMR 147's are too CFE Black is a lot like 1680 but with even bigger positional sensitivity 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix Throttle Body Relearn CFE Black is a lot like 1680 but with even bigger . For lightweight supers the density is too high and yeah you'll be compressing even at starting load. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. Any experience with CFE BLK in magnum revolvers? ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. I just bought a jug of H110 to start working on a load in that powder my rifle. I think Al in MI uses 300-MP with good results. With it, I was getting my 158grn .357 Mag loads up to 1,789fps from my 20" Rossi carbine and 1,822fps from my 24" rifle as well as 1,960fps with my 110grn 30 Carbine loads in my M1 Carbines. IMR 4198 does not meter well. by alamo5000 Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 pm, Post Classifieds 282 Gender:Male I quite using H110 in 44 Mag, too much muzzle blast and flash and I can achieve the same velocity (in a revolver) with nearly half as much IMR 800x. I seated the 150 fmjs at the cannelure. 2.185 COL 19 IMR Co IMR GREEN 69 Hodgdon CFE BLK 119 Norma 204 20 Winchester WST 70 Norma 200 120 Hodgdon HYBRID 100V . Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: "This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy." CFE BLK Should Be on Dealers' Shelves in January 2017 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And Sierra's three 110 gr. This is a modern smokeless powder suitable for a wide variety of popular cartridges. and a ES of 11 fps. Also good to use with Magnum revolver cartridges like the .357, .41, .44, .454 Casull and .500 S&W magnum cartridges. CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']); *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. FYI I have since found the 125gr FMJ #30196 is FAR better for cheap supers in the caliber, and loaded over 20gr of CFE BLK it is decent, but CFE BLK is better suited as a subsonic powder (or with the 110gr v-max), H110/W296 is FAR better for most supers, 18gr under that 125gr bullet crimped to the cannelure is accurate and IIRC at least 100FPS I know felt recoil is subjective, however, there is a noticable difference in both my carbine and rifle between the two powders. VEL. But give it a try and let us know how it works. Hodgdon CFE BLK. Lil'Gun does better for accuracy in the bolt, but A1680 cycles the ARs more reliably with subs. 21.98, 21.98 "Sometimes - those who dont socialize much arent actually anti-social They just have no tolerance for drama, stupidity, and fake people". I use 20g and get just short of 2400 fps in a 16" barrel with no pressure signs at all. I set this rifle up for hot supers, Ive done a lot to slow down the bolt speed as much as possible. Wolf Small Rifle Magnum primers. Accurate 1680 is good for subs and h110, cfe blk, imr 4227 and lil gun work good for supersonic loads. The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. I loaded it with CFE and weighed it. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. averaging 3428 fps. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs - AR15.COM AR-15 AR Pistols Site Notices TNVC vSHOTT 2023 Livestream MAR 21-23 - Win a TNVC Custom Cobalt Kinetics CK-PRO Rifle! The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:54 pm, Post Its not quite that bad, but seemed that way. 11.5 Grains 2.195 COL. In my 300 blk bolt action CZ 527 with 16" barrel, I had better chrono data and groups with 1680 and Lil gun than I did with CFE blackout for the 220 grain subsonic loads I typically shoot. I use mostly Hornady heads and I really like this caliber. All Rights Reserved. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - You 300BO reloaderswhy H110? "Still flying like gypsies, just a little closer to the ground" Trace Adkins. The added burn time, longer dwell really tames the noise and cuts down on the amount of powder blow back. by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:54 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. when I discounted that as a possible loading error the ES dropped to 24, SD 10. these are numbers that are a reasonable to start with. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4198. 1011 When I talked to Hodgdon the guy thought the velocity spread would be on the smaller side because of the 7 barrel. I surmised that it was in part because of the larger charge weight recommended. Can you provide data for reloads using the CFE BLK. It sucks for subs. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy.. Always let your loads stand for at least an hour and re measure the COL. I knew going in that I might be giving up 2-250fps with the cfe black vs. h110 but I already have 8# of the cfe blk. I can try a couple with less powder but I cant imagine .5 gr less would stop the bullet from marring. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; 848 fps I shoot 243 for coyotes and shoot 58gr to 100 gr bullets. Email ( required; will not be published ). The powder is growing on me in a carbine gas system. I never used CFE Blk and cannot comment on it, but I have heard great things about it. I reload 357 and 44 mag so therefore I have a good supply of H-110. That makes CFE BLK ideal for small cartridges such as the .17 Hornet and .221 Fireball. The post is about my experience between H110 and Lil'Gun in .357mag used in 20" and 24" leverguns explaining that I switched powders for the much lower peak pressure advantage expecting to see a slight drop in velocities as is the case with Lil'Gun when used in pistol length barrels but instead I found I got a large velocity increase along with the expected lower peak pressure. I like H110 under Barnes 110gr TAC-TX. With an impact velocity of . For sub its dirty and the velocity spread is too high for decent accuracy. Bill K. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:48 pm, Post For subs I was again interested in flash suppression and noise. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Many of our Forum members have tried CFE 223 and confirmed that is performs as advertised with less copper fouling that most other propellants. By comparison a sized empty case holds 24.5 grains of H110/296. Thats good news for shooters of small varmint cartridges. Bull-X now has a 300 grain flat-nosed bullet available for the I've read the ballistics and reloading guides but would like to hear user reports for reloaders who have experience with CFE BLK and H110 in 300 AAC Blackout in SBRs and . I use the CFE BLK in my Remington 221 Fireball with the 40gr Varmegaddon, 20.5grs. And 300 AAC BLACKOUT with BERGER 115 to 230 grain .30 caliber bullets. One new winner* is announced every week! alamo5000 I won't go into powers or practices as other, better men than I have already spoken however if you, or anyone here for that matter, need to order on line might I suggest Graf & Sons. Hodgdon's listing of 18.0 grains of CFE BLK as maximum for 30- and 35-grain bullets needs clarification. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post You must log in or register to reply here. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16 carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. Search: Cfe Blk Vs H110. check out the. But for sub-sonic loads I have found IMR 4227 under a Barry's 220gr and Accurate 1680 under a Maker 220gr REX work better and are quieter than than similar velocities with the same bullets driven by H110. Only powders I've used for BLK so far is 1680 and H110, under 150gr Hornady FMJ BTs. I am feeling a little better about the powder and will try to run a couple more loads this weekend. Obviously, the RPK can throw rounds much further, but not as accurate as a 7.6263 bullet. 800 fps Im not going to hunt deer with it. Last weeks load of 11 grains at 2.255 had an ES just over 200 fps. Sierra shows a max load of H110 slightly higher than Barnes - 20.5 gr. 240 SMK 208 Amax It looks about like you would expect given the velocity spreads. and it gave 1,225 fps at 39,700 psi and a ES of 16 fps. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. NEW CFE Pistol Reduced-Fouling Pistol Powder from Hodgdon, SHOT Show: Hodgdon Introduces New CFE223 Powder, Hodgdon Claims New CFE223 Ball Powder Deters Copper Fouling, New Redding Powder Measure for Small Varmint Cartridges, New 2012 Hodgdon Reloading Manual Coming Soon. Hodgdon CFE BLK. CFE BLK did have exceptional accuracy though worth the 110 Vmax. 208 Amax That's impossible to get with a 10 grain load. There is a possibility that the chronograph readings are not accurate. And I can attest to the fact it does a number on rock chucks. But more importantly, in the same range. Back to the Hornady 208 Amax. Not being argumentative, just curious. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. 1:13" barrel tho. Using federal AR match primer. You are using an out of date browser. Definitely worth a try. CFE BLK specks, performance and handling are nearly a mirror image of Vit120,, except CFE is a bit . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It may not display this or other websites correctly. NRA Life Member, but the GOA is who I support. 881 fps, 18 barrel carbine gas From my research, it seems to be best when nearly filling case, but not compressed, and I get nearly no unburned powder if I use CCI 450 Magnum primers. The others were fine in the bolt, but AR reliability dropped significantly with subs with H110 and 4227. I only load supers and use the 125 gr Nosler BT. So yes..your starting load will be the bullet seating on top of powder. For subs, I run Lil Gun with berry's 220 gr in my 8" at 1050 FPS. The carbine gas system was not so bad, cycled and locked back with no problem. One new winner* is announced every week! I did not take a picture of trigger group, it was actually still very clean. A bunch CFE Pistol and a bunch of Blue Dot. Much of the effectiveness of that round relies upon its 3,000 feet per second . PwrPro 300-MP H110 296 H4227 IMR - 4227 AR - 2205 A - 5744 A - 1680 680 N - 120 H4198 IMR - 4198 200 AR - 2207 2000 A - 2200 LT-32 REL - 7 AR - BMk1 H - 322 A - 2015 AR - 2219 Benchmark IMR - 3031 A - 2230 X-Terminator REL-10x 201 AR - BMk2 3000 N - 130 A - 2460 Sp10 BLC (2) 748 N - 133 JMHO, but I would back off of that. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. driven every kind of rig that's ever been made, driven the backroads so I wouldn't get weighed. Originally Posted by Varmint Shooter. The left side group that is marked was the 8 barrel, unmarked 18. In all honesty I do not shoot enough 1680 as a sub powder to compare the two without loading and shooting them side by side. The initial loads in the original post were by the book. The table I shoot from is white, there was a fair amount debris on the table from the ejection port. Starting in January, 2017, CFE BLK powder will be available in both one-pound (1-lb.) I loaded it with CFE and weighed it. 11.2 grn 56 ES At this time their shipping/HAZMAT charge is $7.95/$10.00 a price I haven't been able to beat or even come close to elsewhere on line. Hodgdon data only shows IMR4227 loads. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. Like everything else work up your loads slowly and you will find the sweet spot where your gun groups the best. A sub sonic load was louder than I am used to for a bolt action. I debated it but the guy at Hidgon thought Id be fine unless I was trying to push the velocity beyond what I really need in a 7 pistol. 21.98, 21.98 I know getting your choice of powders is tough right now, but maybe CFE isn't the best choice for that bullet weight. H110 came out much better than A1680 I assume due to the shorter barrel and faster burn rate of H110. CFE Pistol is not a magnum pistol powder. It is going to be in the neighborhood of HS-6, which is too fast for your gun. It's good for target or mid-range loads in magnums but it's faster burning than AA9, 2400, or H110/WW296, 4227 or Lil'gun. I would look into SBR Socom. is the glorified version to run 110-220gr projectiles,sub & super sonic. CFE BLK gives higher velocities with the 208 grain and heavier bullets. Using H110 and Barnes Tac-TX 110gr for a supersonic load leaves me with enough confidence for whitetail at a reasonable distance, and it isn't too much . by 41Bear Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:44 am, Post 11.2 CFE BLK Hodgdon Trail Boss. Some hunters speculated that it would sound the death knell for . CFE BLK is a spherical (ball) powder. Right now my feeling is that this is a powder that needs to be compressed. Ill find out! Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. yeah thats pretty bad its not just a mark, I have a nice area 419 funnel Im using and I tap them down when filling to get it to settle. "Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans." . New CFE BLK shares this reduced fouling technology which was developed originally for the U.S. military. It is somewhat encouraging tho. 18.5/H110/125 Sierra SP grouped in 1/2--3/4" range from my Contender . It is likely bolt speed and compressed powder moving the bullet forward due to moving faster on an empty mag. Clear Ballistics Gel Test, Kimber Camp Guard ? It's also pretty nice when suppressed due to a lack of residue buildup. I've thought about trying the 20.2g max, but it's been really accurate, so not worth messing with. The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. 2.255 COL, 8 barrel pistol gas Although I had lock back on empty, I had possibly the highest ES/SD numbers in recorded history. Start around 15gr with 4227 and work up. Hodgdon H322. I put .025 compression on the powder. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). I've tried Lil Gun for 300BOit seems to run hot. H110 is optimized for .30 Carbine. by ThreeHundredBlackout Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:59 pm, Post I was going to Houston anyway but it's a big city with lots of traffic. I will say that it has all the qualities inherent to 1680 that drove me to work hard to find a substitute. 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 22.8gr 2025fps 25.2gr 2250fps 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.3gr 1925fps 23.7gr 2150fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 23.2gr 2075fps 25.8gr 2300fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.7gr 2000fps 24.1gr 2225fps Click "Get Data" to view results. BTW, 18.5 grs pushing 110 gr Hornady SP's are way more accurate out of my cheap PSA rifle than I would have ever figured staring out. Shot roughly 1" groups at 50. . ES in the hundreds. There was one odd round that had a very low velocity. I did not want the 18 to go super( ). I've read the ballistics and reloading guides but would like to hear user reports for reloaders who have experience with CFE BLK and H110 in 300 AAC Blackout in SBRs and AR15 Pistols. Again 5 shots at fifty, for reference that is a 1 dot. 73802E56-837F-48A2-A7B4-AF21CA7EB748.jpeg, FF62D836-B35B-4269-9A64-85377653D7E4.jpeg. I use AA1680 or CFE BLk for subs. I use W296 only for supers. Hodgdon H110. Buffalo Bore 155gr Tactical Low Recoil, Speeds, Feeds and Ballistics10MM Slugfest: Speer Gold Dot 200gr 10MM & Federal HST 200gr 10MM, 22LR Challenge/Callout: Lithgow 101 and Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision Ammo, Dayattherange 22LR Leader Score Board Callout : CZ455 Varmint, CFEBLK Powder Testing First Thoughts: Guest Post, Kimber K6S DA/SA 3inch Table Top Review: The Journey Begins. I dont have any h110 right now. Accuracy in the inches at 50 yards. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. This spreads out the seating force over a larger area of the bullet jacket. Heres some data from today out of my buddys AR 300 Blk 16 barrel. While testing was limited, during the same range session I tried ladder loads with all 3 powders with the same brass, bullets and primers. I dont really shoot subs so Im sticking with H110/W296 for now for my 125 TNT and 147-150gr FMJs. One of the top two holes of the 18 barrel was a flyer by me, the other was I am sure just the load. Next step for me is to load some like I think they should be loaded, instead of the given data. That should do the trick for 44 Mag. Muzzle Velocity: 2,259 fps. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Still marred. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. H110 and WW296 are the same powder, different containers. It's almost difficult to find a load our barrels do not like. This is the results of five shots. I love my H110 for supers with my 110g V-Max. . Barnes has load data for that bullet, but does not list CFE BLK. Be safe. I use it for my magnum handgun loads so when I saw it gave good results in 300BO I started using it in that caliber too. I am also using 220 grain subsonic loads. Hodgdon shows a similar max charge of H110 (20.0) as Barnes, with similar velocity. 15.8gr H110 chrono'd 1920fps from my 16" with the bullet crimped into the first driving band. You are using an out of date browser. For a powder that was hyped as cleaner, quieter, less flash and any other thing you would expect in a powder specifically blended for a cartridge, it came up more than short. So, based on my tests, I now use Lil'Gun excluzively in my .357mag levergun loads. I have read a variety of ballistic charts and reloading data. 8.6 BLK H110 vs CFE BLK I've got a load worked up using both A1680 and H110 for my 8" gas gun build. It seems to throw high spreads until you get to 95% plus. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Rem 7 1/2 Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. More shooting will sort that out. It was designed for the 9mm and the 40 but will work in the 10mm. Basically 22 grains, I dropped ten charges and weighed them on a Gempro 250. 300 AAC Blackout (7.62 x 35 mm) (300 BLK) 125 gr. Hodgdon H110. The 300 is very close to the 30 carbine so that is why it is used. Should look something like this data: S Slowbolt Registered Joined Mar 26, 2022 8 Posts I'm curious how users who reload have experienced with an SBR or AR Pistol in 300 AAC Blackout with CFE BLK and H110. It was reasonably overcast when shooting, with plenty of snow. 300BO was and still is the only rifle cartridge I've ever reloaded. But note, seating depth can make a significant difference in pressures. Look at thread number 8---- 38.0 grs. 1040 896 fps NOTE: Despite the BLK in the name, this is a NOT a black powder substitute. The group on the left, starts showing some promise. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. After thousands of rds of both calibers I can say it is a good powder for full power loads in magnum calibers. by dellet Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:27 pm, Post Please accept my apologies for not reading your entire post.Im just some nobody online so dont get bothered by me. Like 300 Blackout ammunition, it had the ability to be loaded to subsonic or supersonic levels and it would fit in a standard AR15 action and magazine. One other tidbit is my last shot has continued to be an anomaly. I use H110 mostly for 410 shotshells and 450 Bushmaster heavy loads. It's exactly this velocity drop that caused folks to start looking at alternatives to the 5.56mm NATO projectiles. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. of H-110 which is our standard loading and it gave 1,151 fps at 42,500 psi. Here's a simple task you can do that will give your seater die a more perfect fit to your match bullets. Its a very dense powder. If Ive missed anything or something you think I should try ask and Ill see what I can come up with as a test. Hodgdon Lil'Gun. I just need to figure out if a different seating stem would fit the bullets better. Five shot groups for both barrel lengths. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. I always record where the bullet will touch the powder. 9.0, 10.0 grains Hodgdon H-110 powder (See chronograph data below) 2.230 COL (2.260 is max for AR-15) Use load data at your own risk. A very popular cartridge, this 50AE based case contains a .308 style 1038 Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. 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