People have this illusion that we live in a liberal democracy, he says, but that ran out of steam quite a while ago and the world we live in is something much more akin to the one I experienced in China 12 years ago, only here people seem faintly more invested in the delusion that its anything other than a controlled society. The band, fronted by Southampton-born[1] and Cookstown-raised Lias Kaci Saoudi,[2] formed in 2011. It's not even a clever bit of wordplay. Once you snag him, though, it's tough to get the Fat White . Dance music can be quite conservative, Liam continues. At high school in Cookstown my pocket money was spent on either blank video tapes - with which I would record my favourite films off the telly - or on CDs from the local music shop. I reckon we should have enough for an EP . In 2013 Lias Saoudi, who was then laying low in Berlin after the recording of his band Fat White Family's debut album Champagne Holocaust, went out to Berghain. We did a few demos earlier on in the year. I want to thank Jane Ferguson & her team at theObserverfor giving me this opportunity & putting everything together so it all makes sense. Depending on what kind of guests you have round for tea or whatever, its the ultimate coffee-table placement the ultimate conversation-starter. There was a time in my life when they were precious to me. ^ "How The Metros are making a big noise in Peckham". If you dont like something, dont do it then.. Given Saoudis history of provocation with Fat White Family, it might be wondered whether hes purposely looking to cause trouble by dressing as a geisha. Photo courtesy of Lias Saoudi. It didnt sell mega-well or anything like that, but loads of really cool people liked it. It found early admiration from influential DJs like Jacob Meehan, Derek Plaslaiko and Dark Entries boss Josh Cheon, for example. I wouldnt ever listen to Blur now but at the time there was a kind of melancholy about it. Its the I belong bit, there can be no half-measures. Mon 20th Sep 2021 14.45 BST. Anyone willing to sweat nuts and bolts on stage like that, regardless of the underlying message, deserves our respect, and for that I duly salute them. I was really nervous, he recalls. DiS: What are your plans for Christmas and the New Year? We were homaging the kind of place where house music came from, gay, Black clubs in Chicago and New York, basically. I found it therapeutic., In Fat White Family, he continues, There was an element of chaos but it was always extremely tightly controlled and orchestrated. In this month's Low Culture subscriber podcast Luke Turner is joined by Lias Saoudi of Fat White Family, co-author with Adelle Stripe, of Ten Thousand Apologies, the brilliant and now best-selling account of the band's slow, troubled rise and. Sarah Davachi plays incredibly sparse ambient stuff, all layered drones with electronic and acoustic elements, but really minimalist, subtle. Raina Lampkins-Fielder introduced me to the work of the Gees Bend quilt-makers. #fatwhitefamily, @-webkit-keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} } @keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} }, Fat White Family last night at Bowery Ballroom. Given the complete absence of any kind of social life I was incredibly studious and this proved easy to accomplish. Chrissy Blake hosted my interview with Peter Blake. He had an incredible array of records in his living room that me and his daughter would help ourselves to. How was the show, apart from being in-the-raw and in-your-face? By Gregg L. Friedman MD, Nirvana were really great - never liked any other 'grunge' bands, only later liked some Mudhoney - though i did own a flannel shirt, but, SAM CUTLER: LIFE WITH THE STONES, THE DEAD & OTHER WONDERFUL REPROBATES, ALL THE RAJ: HOW NORWEGIAN WOOD UNLEASHED THE INDIAN INVASION, THE KNACK AND HOW TO GET IT: AN INTERVIEW WITH PRESCOTT NILES, PLEASE READ ME: THE BEST OF PKM FOR 2021, PART II, UTOPIA PARKWAY: THE ENDURING MYSTERY OF JOSEPH CORNELL. Retrieved 7 May 2021. I think not. Ingrid Marie Jensen is a member of New South Story Lab. But I had to come back after five days because everything just went mad on the lockdown. In choosing to attack two groups at once . "On my radar: Lias Saoudi's cultural highlights". You can stream "I Am Mark E Smith," and check out a few more in flagrante (NSFW) instagrams from FWF's Bowery show, below---, 100% naked 75% of the show. Lias Saoudi: Most of them are in panic mode. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. I would go and stay at hers at the weekends. I mean, where would you draw the line? Author: Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi. Put a blanket ban on a term? Otherwise everything you write is like just absolute drivel. Macho Music by Peter Gordon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbeJKaAKLos, 4. Words by Lias Saoudi. Gallerist Sadie Coles sheds light on the motivations of art collectors in our Q&A. I continued amassing a collection after moving to London at age 18 to study art, even adding a vinyl section to my library once the time was right. And it really was more sporadic. ", Talbot also revealed that those comments did make him angry, "I do hold on to those grudges. Plans for a fourth album were temporarily ground to a halt with the advent of the pandemic, and the band were forcibly scattered to the winds with the cessation of travel between countries. After its release, the partnership took concepts from the album to form a new band called the Moonlandingz. Were not good at talking about our emotions, says Saoudi. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. And Ill be tired of being around drugs and boozing and all that stuff, so I was thinking, if I slowly usher myself into that other realm, maybe Ill make it out alive. We cant have you back in the house, Lias told him at the time. You see whats happening now with mass protests, and its like so, say we all went in a tracing app, and we all had to sign up to it, but then anybody that goes out on a protest is suddenly biologically invalidated from going to a pop concert, or eating in a nice restaurant, or taking a train somewhere. If you love what we do, you can help tQ to continue bringing you the best in cultural criticism and new music by joining one of our subscription tiers. Just go down to New Malden and howl some falsetto over a beat for a few hours. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure. It reminds me of Mark E Smiths freewheeling, deranged memoir, Renegade. But if you dont, its all about that early period where youre learning about the kind of communal experience and the way you feed off an energy in a crowd and theres this kind of like cyclone that gets whipped up. I, is released via The Leaf Label on November 4. Lias Saoudi: Im glad thats the way I am. Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi says Idles 'represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics.' Idles Are Feuding With UK Band Fat White Family About Social Issues Music I think thats something Id like to move away from: monotone rage and anger. To have such intricate writing these days, in an online essay, is so rare, because people get to the point so quickly and cut things down so sparsely, and the kind of writing I like to read best is pretty much the style you have. Once all that was gone, I had no hankering., He holed up at a friends flat in Streatham during the first months of Covid, where he rediscovered his love of reading and writing. I dont know. In choosing to attack two groups at once I believed I was demonstrating a supreme . I dont think that things are going pan out as drastically kind of awfully as it feels like they will right now. Ive been reading loads of stuff like that recently. I escaped and stood and watched it from the perimeter. I havent learned how to do that during lockdown. I think thats something Id like to move away from: monotone rage and anger. Do the gig, get in the van, go to the studio, do the album there was never any time for any kind of perspective. I certainly wouldnt vote for him., Saoudi performing with Fat White Family in 2019. Born to an Algerian father and a British mother, he grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before moving to London to study at the Slade School of Fine Art. People listen to me. Not a chance. All that carry on, for me, is circumstantial and social. [21][22] Lennon co-produced their eponymous debut album, released in February 2018. Like Saul belongs in South London, but its impossible to put down roots here because of the money. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. I think Saul is back on Friday to London. You have to give up on that yourself., 'Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe is out on Thursday 24 February, published by White Rabbit (20), Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. Sitting watching TV, I remember the video came up. Looking at it all written down and placing yourself within it, building a narrative out of it it was like, man, that was f***ed up. When I speak to Stripe the following day, she says she often felt like Dr Melfi sitting with Tony Soprano. That's a pretty great show and tickets are still available. It must have been hard to pick at all those scabs again. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Six things you love which should be better known. ", "In a way Im grateful to the band IDLES," Saoudi continued. Author Olivia Laing met me at the London Library & helped me collect my thoughts on this & a number of other subjects. Its not a power that can actually be taken away from somebody. To the four winds was scattered my collection. I tried Paris for a while. It was a real trip. PS: theres a playlist of music referred to inGood Pop, Bad Pop you can get a sneak peekhere. But the process of writing Ten Thousand Apologies forced Saoudi, whom Stripe describes as a mix of Harold Steptoe, Oscar Wilde and Adrian Mole, to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. Also, its that thing where youre not part of the city. Maybe thats a conventional opinion. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. Seeing your friends after months, the hangovers just end up blaring into each other. Address: The Social 5 Little Portland St London W1W 7JD. Change). For all four of the musicians, it was something they deeply needed. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Drugs, alcohol and ego almost tore Britains most provocative band apart, as a no-holds-barred memoir of the group reveals. I tried Sheffield for a while. It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. [12], On 9 January 2019, Fat White Family announced that their third album, Serfs Up!,[13] would be released on 19 April 2019 on Domino Records. YMMV on the purpose of art, but Lias seems clear in his personal standards. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. When youve got a new project, theres that sweet spot at the beginning when everythings just for your own amusement. Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. Nothing all that personal is ever laid on the table. It makes me angry. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a biography of the band published earlier this year by Orion. PKM: It seems like another way for the government to track you. [17] Writing in the Observer, Miranda Sawyer described it as 'the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace.' document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); https://media.zencast.fm/better-known/219.mp3, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbeJKaAKLos, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. He looks healthy and together now a far cry from the increasingly emaciated, tortured figure who haunted the stage as the band he formed in 2011 with his brother Nathan and Saul Adamczewski slowly ripped itself apart, poisoned by drugs, alcohol and ego. And get yourself one too. But I think being half Algerian, raised in Northern Ireland and Scotlandtheres some sort of connection there, between the Berber people and the Celtic people, you know? The Irish News. There are two miracles in this brutally honest account of the rise and spectacular fall of Fat White Family, who despite their chaotic existence remain one of the more interesting British bands this . Were in Brixton, south London, longtime home of Fat White Family, to talk about Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a memoir of sorts by Saoudi and the journalist and novelist Adelle Stripe. It wouldve been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad was into him. Come To Me Villas initial non-descript launch was back in 2014 (at the beginning of last year it received a more publicized re-release as a full EP), with further one-off releases coming once a year in 2015, 2016 and 2017. She was the only person seemingly in the whole vicinity that had interests like my own: she loved music, books and films and had a tinge of goth about her general demeanour. Hes never on his way to the party, hes always like, Do you know what? [18] It is nominated for the 2023 Penderyn Music Book Prize. Then Id have just one record. PKM: People are still in panic mode. That behaviour is tied to the darkest points of his addiction and Saul was very, very candid with me. I dont understand where the line is. It was on The Big Breakfast, remember that? Join Facebook to connect with Lias Kaci Saoudi and others you may know. . They met up sporadically, about once every month or two. Id go as far as saying its tantamount to blaming the slave for his chains. Everyone was naked, fucking each other on a cocktail of drugs and it never stopped. Born to a British mother and Algerian father, he grew up in the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Northern Ireland, before moving to London . 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Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi has teamed up with writer and tQ contributor Adelle Stripe to produce a new book about the band, called Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family And The Miracle Of Failure.. We used to put it on and dance to it and shit. Am I a hoarder? Its got to be one of the bravest, boldest records Ive heard in years its the brutal honesty combined with the acerbic wit of the lyricism that does it for me. That hasnt been shut off yet. waver.One of the best parts of the book is Lias writing about his upbringing with brother Nathan as mixed-race kids in Huddersfield, Eire, Ulster and . If youre a younger band, just starting outand youre yet to carve out a following for yourselfwhats the point of doing it online if nobodys watching? Continue this thread. Hed never had that much interest in electronic music before, but a couple of my mates who dressed like characters from The Matrix were real techno heads, so I thought Ill give it a go. It ended up being completely transformational. To many in 21 st century Britain, the days of overtly political music are over, but not for Lias and his co-songwriter Saul Adamczewski, who is an admirer of 1990s post-punk outfit The Make-Up for . And a birthday shout-out (in cartoon form) to the one & only David Attenborough. Learn how your comment data is processed. But no, its just that I havent been able to see my brethren in arms much lately, Ive spent the pandemic writing about them instead of playing with them. He holed up at a . The minute lockdown started to get eased in London, the old devils crept back in. I dont feel like I learn anything about Joe Talbot by listening to Joe Talbot. [6] Pledgers were given the self-released EP Crippled B-Sides and Inconsequential Rarities. Theres a poem called The Word, about the way his dad speaks. Sign up with your email address to get news and updates from the Social and The Social Gathering . Itll be a heavy day., Decius are a supergroup made up of Paranoid London and Warmduscher members with Lias Saoudi as frontman. It is a bruising, exhilarating read, which captures the nihilistic energy of this strange and brilliant band. I though it was one of the most positive things Id seen on the streets of London, ever. I was kind of like, almost angry and bitter at it when it first kicked off, in a way. Published 24 February 2022 by White Rabbit. Whos to say what is and isnt personal to someone? The Absolute Mixture: Shit Art Positive by Matthew Bown. So what happened? It was really packed at the front and they came out and started doing Song 2 and the place went fucking mental. [Heroin] was never the one for me. Read previous Sweet 16 columns with the likes of Beirut, Riz Ahmed, Johnny Marr, Shirley Manson, Matt Helders and many more. As they put out more singles in the build-up to their debut album (Decius Vol I, released on May 13 via their own label Decius Trax), the band also started releasing visuals that stepped out from behind the relative anonymity of their early days. It shouldnt be like this, I tell myself, I should care more than I do. Theres no deeper concept behind them and no deliberate provocation, they insist other than doing just that. We recorded in one long take, straight on the record, no edits necessary, says Luke. Its a strange time for that to suddenly be a prospect again, like things werent bad enough. Johnny Vaughan and Denise Van Outen, they was a pair. "It's not even a good pun! Please whitelist our site in order to continue to access The Quietus. It made me think of London, which was not a place Id ever been but youre almost mourning this place thats not even real to you. ", The Fat White Family vocalist also wrote that the band "represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics, with a left to whom the future used to belong, in defeat now collapsing into whimsical utopianism. People talk about a blue pill and a red pill, he says. I definitely feel like I dont have a tribe.. ", Yesterday (22 September), Saoudi posted an essay on The Social clarifying his opinion on IDLES. Life doesnt work like that. Lias Saoudi, the band's frontman, has a reputation for shedding clothing at . Theyre all very fragmented, but as it proceeds it starts to descend into darker, more autobiographical sketches. (LogOut/ Its constantly shifting. PKM: Fat White Family have such diverse backgrounds. PKM: Have you been working on anything with the Fat White Family since quarantine has been lifted? I'm Your Biggest Fan. Ill have a fag if Im out having a proper drink or if Im having a bit of a party, he says. This was followed by the singles "Feet" and "Tastes Good With The Money", the latter featuring spoken lyrics by Baxter Dury, and a video directed by Risn Murphy. "Fat White Family frontman Lias looking forward to Irish 'homecoming' gigs". He is wearing a grey woollen rollneck, his hair tightly cropped, his face a little fuller than when I last saw him perform topless, cheeks drawn, lank black hair down to his shoulders. Tastes Good With The Money from the Serfs Up album: Fat White Familys website: https://fatwhitefamilymusic.com/, PLEASE KILL ME INTERVIEWS THE FAT WHITE FAMILY. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. During the first UK lockdown, Lias began contributing a series of unflinching autobiographical pieces entitledLife Beyond the Neutral Zoneto the online cultural hub, The Social Gathering. Blur were his go-to. It was sort of a psychotherapy exercise, except Im not remotely qualified to be doing that.. They were both obsessed with Bob Dylan, whose nasal whine I was completely adverse to. A dependency on streaming poured into the gaping hole left behind. As the groups shit-stirrer in chief I almost felt obliged to start casting stones after those wilderness years, a bit of conflict is good for the art, I thought. That whole thing about living in a sort of post-truth ageI mean, the amount of information you get from all these angles, constantlyit becomes impossible to make up any kind of a concrete opinion as to what is actually going on. All that stuffthats got obvious implications for how you actually perceive the world politically. And it doesnt matter which part of the media spectrum you go to, theyre all trying to crank it up to the max, so they can raise their heads above the parapet, above the din. It was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager., Or at least thats one part of the story. Heroin just f***s everything up. Harmer pitched a tent in the graveyard at the end of the road. At that point we had an album recorded, so we just started recording another, says Luke. Sarah Davachi at Lglise Saint-Eustache, Paris. It employs a similar off-kilter aesthetic, shots of Lias buzzing around manically behind contortionist and circus performer Ephyra Ana as she stands perfectly still with an intense Mona Lisa stare, alternating with snippets of the frontman engaging in some enigmatic, submissive ritual. Were the classic toxic men that everybody keeps talking about. But having that long silence and emptiness of lockdown, going over it all and actually talking about things, I think its been pretty helpful., Were the classic toxic men that everybody keeps talking about. "For no other phenomenon in music over the last few years elucidates more clearly the brazen inconsistencies of the U.S. import social justice faith currently permeating every facet of our culture. Cabin fever set in long ago, and hes considering going down to Margate to search for a new home base. As well as the unparalleled joy of keeping the publication alive, you'll receive benefits including exclusive editorial, podcasts, and specially-commissioned music by some of our favourite artists. Its an oxymoron. And a birthday shout-out (in cartoon form) to . Rummage in the pockets of your coat. Photo by Alex White. Like, How can we fuck everybody off?. 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