Crewman refused to sail on Titanic But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. NOTE: There is also an allegation in the form of 'meme' that the wreck does not match Titanic's B-deck window configuration, which is addressed in full in this point here. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" According to Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book "Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank?" Linoleum flooring covered with carpets This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. - Leading Fireman Charles Hendrickson (British Inquiry, Day 5). B. Ismay had all the linoleum flooring on the new "RMS Titanic" covered up with new carpet. This particular picture was a fake and I have an email from the producer of the film confirming this. The Olympic deck plans show a curved wheelhouse: 2. Even if the insurance would not pay out the $750,000, IMM 20. While there is some slight confusion over which ship he is referring to "coming from Belfast to Southampton" there is certainly no evidence here of trying to conceal the identity of the two ships. Leading Fireman Frederick Barrett testified before the British Wreck Commission that on the day of the collision Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary James Fenton | Poetry Foundation Second Class also had an open promenade on the aft end of the Boat Deck, and enclosed ones on B Deck and C Decks. Which brings us to a total of at least 1047 aboard the Carpathia on the night of the Titanic disaster. 21. Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. a lifeboat, keeping older hands on deck for lowering boats. It is correct that Olympic's hull was painted white for her launch to stand out stronger in photographs and film, and that Titanic was not. But also it must be noted that there were tours of In reality, Titanic's starboard B-deck windows were more narrow than the Olympic's as onboard Titanic these areas had been converted into two private verandahs and suites. principal constituent of IMM and enjoyed continued prosperity, its profit There are a couple of important points to first realise. 19. Olympic officers on the bridge It is a wild claim based purely on imagination. Actually it is quite simply medium grey primer that was used on all three Olympic class ships, including Titanic, This misunderstanding may be one of the reasons why this particular 'theory' holds fast despite its obvious answer. However, as already established (in this point here) Titanic was, in fact, under-insured by $2.5 million. 19344. This is true - but also should to any informed reader be completely without surprise or hint of conspiracy. This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. Both had the same configuration of portholes in March 1912. (Click to enlarge), Titanic author Steve Hall summarises the porthole history: "At the time of the Titanic's launch there were 14 portholes in the port side plating between the focsle deck and the sheer line of the hull, but by December the same year, the ship was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. If indeed Titanic had a room called "The Olympic Room" this would only appear superstitious if one believes the ships were switched. by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." Photographs taken of Titanic leaving Southampton also reveal a slight port list. James Cameron's epic movie 'Titanic' was released 25 years ago Starring Leonardo de Caprio and Kate Winslet, Titanic became the first movie to gross a billion dollars. In both cases Gardiner made this claim up! The ship photographed departing Southampton has 16 bow portholes. How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? Passengers said there were promenades instead of cabins Mr Reginald Fenton Butler was born in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England over the summer months of 1886. Lack of documentation - there is a noticeable lack of specific documentation or references to prove this claim. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). (Click to enlarge). Did they think they would just stand there and watch? Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. And that there were not binoculars on the Titanic? It seems those intent on proving a 'switch' have mistaken the missing bridge enclosure, the rectangular gap in the forward bulwark (painted white) for the wheelhouse. Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking And to finally put it to rest we have a photograph of Captain Smith on Titanic's bridge on sailing day - and the wheelhouse is clearly flat behind him. Difference in tonnage The story goes that after the sinking thirteen lifeboats were recovered, taken to New York, where the name Titanic was sanded off and numbers removed to deter souvenir hunters. (Click image to enlarge). Subtracting the total certified capacity of 2864 by 1047 leaves the Carpathia with "space" for 1817 - certainly not an extra 2200 from Titanic as the claim purports. "Olympic Class" referred to a set of three ships: Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. Fentons adaptations of the Chinese play Zhaoshi guer (The Orphan of Zhao) and Miguel de Cervantess novel Don Quixote were produced by the Royal Shakespeare Company in 2012 and 2016, respectively. First and foremost is that the Californian would be a ridiculous choice as a rescue vessel. There are two key issues with this story. This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. But according to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "none of Titanic's boats were reused by the White Star Line. He continues that on the starboard side Steward Wheelton met Thomas Andrews on B Deck and that the boats were visible from the corridor on B Deck. She had not all her boilers on, none of the single-ended Goodwin Antiques 295 $361.88 345.06 Silver Enamelled Bracelet Recess Antiques 50.00 $61.34 58.49 Silver Blade Fruit Knife . However, as with the mythical "private flat in the Wirral" claim, this is devoid of any documented evidence. 23. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. 4. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. As it was named the "Olympic Class" it would hence not be unusual to feature the first ship in any advertising. It was also carrying no passengers, at a time when due to the coal strike and so many ships confined to port there would be plenty of people eager to pay above the cost in cash to get to Boston. Patchwork and braces from Hawke collision in wreck photographs They For many years afterward its port and starboard White Star insignia were used as prizes by a local Sea Scout group. Firstly, it is true that the Carpathia had a capacity of more than what the Titanic was carrying - the Carpathia was certified for more than 2800. Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. between eighty and ninety feet.". Titanic's lifeboats had "RMS Olympic" written on them performance on her maiden voyage, and as the speed increased, Titanic was well placed to exceed her sisters average speed.". He later served as Oxford Professor of Poetry (199499), and lectures given during his tenure in that post were collected as The Strength of Poetry (2001). These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. To add more books, click here . (British Enquiry (Day 3) Thirdly, the characteristics of the Olympic were already known so there was less of a learning curve to deal with. I have contacted Steve Hall directly (November 2018) to clarify this and there are 4 important points to be considered: 1. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch, 8. (courtesy Steve Hall), According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, "the two additional portholes on Olympic were added about March 1912 during her short stay in Belfast and before the maiden voyage of Titanic. Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. This was the number that was given to Titanic when it was being built in Belfast, Ireland. Survivor Lawrence Beesley wrote about men in the smoking room sighting the iceberg in his book, "The Loss of the SS Titanic": "One of them had seen through the windows an iceberg go by towering above the decks. It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). The fields are mined and the moon is bright. the number of revolutions some time on Monday or Tuesday to 78, which he claimed would drive the ship at When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. This is another one of those inaccurate claims that more importantly does not make any sense even if it was accurate. Claim: When James Cameron sent a robot in to Ismay's room it filmed a veined marble surround on the fireplace that exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. It was our intention if we had fine weather on Monday afternoon or Tuesday to did not do serious damage but when the cold water hit the coal fire, it This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains this particular claim: According to the book "The Ship That Never Sank" (pages 134-135) B Deck had no cabins extending to the hull as boats were visible. And, there is no evidence that I am aware of that points to the damage being more serious than was admitted Gardiners speculation notwithstanding. The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. 11 [American Inquiry, Day 7]. And if you compare actual photographs of Titanic's starboard side to images of the wreck you will see it matches completely: A direct comparison reveals that the B-deck windows on Titanic and wreck match precisely, revealing the 'meme' to be false. Local "runners". Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. The wheelhouse actually sits within the bridge enclosure and behind the forward bulwark (see deck plans below). For a company that has miraculously been able to switch ships including hundreds of thousands of numbers on the back of wooden panels, without anyone knowing, this seems a rather farfetched and unlikely plan. overlook something as simple as the number of portholes on the outside of the ship? Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. Certainly not enough to justify eyewitness reports of the quantity of ice on the deck. Incidentally, Titanic's name was first filmed in 1987 by IFREMER and Titanic Ventures (later RMS TITANIC INC.) after they cleaned that part of the bow from rust. Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? Far from the wisdom of the brain. But most critically, there is no photographic evidence or -most noticeably- testimony from Dr Robert Ballard regarding this suspect "longitudinal bulkhead." Proportionally less than Titanic!" ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". 37. (Click image to enlarge). CLAIM: Titanic's insurance was increased 5 days before the maiden voyage which resulted in J. P. Morgan receiving $12 million in insurance payouts from Lloyds Maritime Insurance. 1853). However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. In 1910, IMMs net profit was a mighty $4,849,580, Actually there were only 6 within a 140 mile radius. In 1967 he enrolled at Magdalen College, Oxford, initially intending to study English but later switching to psychology, philosophy, and physiology. Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). By the time Titanic's maiden voyage came along Olympic had been operating for a year. Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. "It was a somewhat quiet affair.". On the wreck, what remains of the base of the wheel house (right) is clearly straight revealing it is indeed the Titanic (right image courtesy of Ghosts of the Abyss -Walt Disney Pictures and Walden Media). ', When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean. In summary Gardiner's allegations that Titanic was in fact a damaged Olympic struggling to maintain speed does not add up, especially when you consider that he alleges He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. He wrote most of them when. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. It is quite possible that those who "remember" Ballard giving a presentation in which he said he saw evidence it was the Olypmic are actually just remembering the documentary entitled "Titanic - The Shocking Truth" which contained fake imagery falsely purported to be evidence of a switch filmed by Ballard. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. Albert Edward James* -Able bodied seaman Hosgood, R. -Fireman Hosking, G. F. -Senior third engineer . Claim: Titanic's lifeboats had small brass I.D plaques screwed on them and they all said "RMS Olympic". Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. Olympic had an "overlap of the plates, or strakes" forward of the bow anchors (described as "the doubler forward at the bower anchors"), while Titanic was different in that "the strake butted up against the doubler and did not overlap it.". However, It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic certainly not be unusual to discover a bulkhead in the stern of the wreck of Olympic, Titanic or Britannic and certainly does not prove a 'switch'. And also the Olympic was 500 miles away and would have been a much better solution if such a rescue was necessary. 42. Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational, 12. On the panels the number 400 is stencilled, but on the frames the number 401 is clearly visible. (Click image to see the full, enlarged photograph). In fact, White Stars profit recovered from the wreck but, although in excellent condition, there was no Although the ship had 14, then later 16, portholes on the port side, she had 15 on her starboard side, and this number remained consistent throughout. 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. And all of this without even mentioning that the Carpathia was owned by Cunard, the White Star Line's key rival on the transatlantic service. During her construction and in this particular photograph the name was not very clear so the photographer took the liberty of sketching it in, which was not an unusual practice of the day. Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the Olympic. Fenton, F. -Saloon steward Ferrary, Auto -Trimmer Ferris, W. -Leading fireman . Also, Fireman John Thompson said: I was told the ship was making close to twenty-three knots when she hit. Chirnside and Halpern discovered that "Titanics 546 mile run from noon Saturday to noon Sunday would be her best posted off the bell. 27. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. However, this was not unique to Titanic. keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant 12 was lowered a French man jumped in from B Deck. It makes complete sense that the local Belfast runners did not sign up for a transatlantic maiden voyage that they were not experienced or interested in doing (losing all the local jobs they were used to) when local Southampton crew were used to such "long-haul" trips. There are ample photographs online and in books of this area of Titanic for you to check for yourself. Claim: J. Refer to the images below. According to the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground", James Cameron sends a robot submarine into the sitting room of the promenade suite on B deck and films - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. that when the crew joined Titanic there was [sic] rumours that the company The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. It was only when she collided with an iceberg in a freak set of circumstances that she was suddenly thrust back into the media spotlight. it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. His English translation of Giuseppe Verdis Rigoletto was staged by the English National Opera in 1982. In 33 von 66 Fllen wurde der Preistrger spter mit einem Oscar ausgezeichnet, zuletzt 2022 geschehen, mit der Preisvergabe . Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". However the way in which it is painted to look part of a conspiracy theory Though a stint reporting from Germany for The Guardian (197879) was ultimately abortive, A Vacant Possession (1978), his pamphlet of narrative poems, was a critical success. There were no plates or anything that could be swapped over- the name was literally engraved into the ship, then filled in with paint. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. 2. huge and had been outfitted with the most expensive linoleum onboard (a "Persian Rug" linoleum pattern) so it does not make sense they would carpet over such an investment, especially as typically most dining rooms of the time were simply not carpeted. So in fact rather than proving a 'switch,' exploration of this suite only confirms that it is indeed Titanic that sank. Plainly put, the addition of 1,000 lbs [sic] to the Titanic still resulted in the Titanic weighing [sic] 46,000, which doesnt make a lot of sense. the game. Captain Smith on Titanic Damage to Olympic caused by its collision with HMS Hawke. But this should not misconstrued as anything unusual, but common practice for a company which suddenly comes under media scrutiny and wants to maintain So does the post-disaster image of Olympic show the "doubler" overlapping or not? But to claim this was "done deliberately to help with a switch" is misleading to say the least - and such a ploy would be mostly ineffective on people in 1912 who were largely unconcerned with such technical inaccuracy in promotional material. Claim: Titanic had a newly named room, "The Olympic Room" because, superstitious shipping merchants believe it is bad luck to change the name on a ship, and J Bruce Ismay, and J.P. Morgan thought it best to have the Olympic's name still somewhere on board. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . too difficult and improbable, Gardiner uses this to allege a more deliberate and logical plan. Names riveted on, not welded About James Fenton. to Gallatin TN (Pop. Further volumes of poetry included Out of Danger (1994), which won the Whitbread Book Award (now the Costa Book Award); Selected Poems (2006), a Penguin anthology of his work; and Yellow Tulips: Poems 19682011 (2012), an even broader survey containing previously uncollected verse. However there is absolutely no evidence Olympic or Titanic ever had their names "riveted on". Has Cameron in fact admitted that Titanic is actually Olympic? alone did not sink Titanic, that it had a fire burning in the coal bunkers for a James Fenton on how variation in a line presents the poet with many challenges. were being made to further increase the ships speed. 39. Some go as far as to state that 'Lloyd's paid out $12,500,000'. Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. 34. It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds[sic] of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight [sic] of the Titanic. Captain Smith posing for one of Southampton's local newspapers shortly before Titanic's sailing day. There is no reason to doubt that passengers cancelled their voyage aboard Titanic. Parisian (50 miles) Allan Line, Liverpool, England, Westbound, Glasgow - Halifax - Boston Titanic did not strike an iceberg After returning to England in 1976, he reported on British politics for the New Statesman. Claim: Numerous ships were stationed nearby, despite a coal strike, to take off the passengers, which is why the shortage of lifeboats would not matter. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. And as for both Lord and Smith sleeping "full clothed" that is pure speculation, and has little relevance anyway. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. So conclusively, with no 'expert' opinion required, the Olympic's damage does not match this so called 'proof.' The panelling used shows a number on the frame that says 401. PRODUCED BY AIVL, WHOI They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. Promenade Suites, identical to Olympic's. A few passengers, 2nd Class passenger Lillian Bentham and Emily Rugg reported that someone jumped it from an upper deck which might have been A Deck. The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking, 30. 45,324. But unsurprisingly in 2019 a new 'meme' appeared on the internet claiming to show evidence from the wreck site that repair work done to Olympic caused by the Hawke collision can be seen in wreck photographs, captioned with "YOU NEED PROOF? would have remained in surplus. Some have analysed the footage concluding for example that the X-shaped viewing field seen in the video is caused by the camera rig's lighting. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. Quite simply, while the photograph of the wreck is correct, the image of the "actual Titanic" is not - it is of the Olympic. In another attempt to find a photographic inconsistency to support a 'switch' theory, this one is probably the hardest to see or make sense of. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered 25. Claim: Survivors on B Deck described seeing lifeboats being lowered from above, theres no way they would have seen that on Titanic only on the ship Olympic. answer was to grind the names off the bells. TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. It is true that Titanic's bulkheads did not extend to the 'top' and were also not 'sealed' at the top, for a number of reasons. and this slipped to $4,509,270 in 1911. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! Ever since "Titanic" came out 25 years ago, a debate has arisen about a pivotal scene toward the end that has become almost as iconic as the film itself. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one was 60 years old at the time of the sinking, and was examined on Day 17 of the British Wreck Commissioner's Inquiry. Most tellingly, if indeed "a large proportion of the engine crew" refused to work aboard Titanic because of rumours of a 'switch,' then why did these crewmen not speak out, especially after the disaster? Claim: Olympic had a vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe, while Titanic during her construction did not. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg, 26. and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. Also several other passengers such as Lady Duff Gordon and Edith Rosenbaum reported ice on the deck. But you do not need any imagination when you view a rather conclusive image that reveals that the 'patchwork' on the wreck does not match the location of the actual damage on the Olympic: Photograph of RMS Olympic showing the location of the damage. The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). 100 cubic feet equals 1 "ton" of internal volume. After the Titanic disaster this all changed. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. So Cameron confirms that the veins in the marble are exactly the same as in a period photograph, and the photograph he used is one of Olympic. There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. When or where did he ever say he discovered this? "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . of the surviving crew. Passengers said there were promenades instead of cabins, 32. And the answer is the same. Surviving crew signed the Official Secrets Act, 35. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. The Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. 30. Now, director James Cameron is hoping . The story come from Frank Finch, a retired seaman living in New South Wales, Australia, who wrote a letter to Damage from Olympic 's collision with Hawke was more significant 3. Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. Check out our james fenton selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our collectible glass shops. 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